For a more technical dive, we just interviewed Mikey (CEO) on the pod: https://www.latent.space/p/suno
Suno, an AI music generator
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Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#32"A ChatGPT for Music Is Here. Inside Suno, the Startup Changing Everything" My fucking god, I'm really disgusted by "journalists" who hype up everything so that they can get a few clicks. Journalism ought to be critical, objective and investigative.
"journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed; everything else is public relations."
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#33Couldn’t be less interested — art is interesting for its human qualities. This is pointless dreck.
There is also music for other functions: entertainment, background, dancing. Perhaps it finds niche there, because -let's be honest- most of the music in that category is made on the automatic pilot anyway.
But I also find it an idiotic attempt. It doesn't inform us about anything, and it makes any idiot with a mouse think they can create. Instead, they're listening to music that's worse than what YouTube has to offer.
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#34I've been playing with it (their V3 model) and its super cool. The best of what I've seen so far.
How to get fun:
1. Use "custom mode" (to feed your own lyrics). Auto-generated lyrics is lame.
2. Create wild "remixes" of your favorite tracks or poetry. E.g. I was able to create nu-metal or opera versions of my favorite hip-hop tracks. It can even sing in Russian (my native tongue) — and I was amazed of the quality of generation.
Can't wait until these models will become more controllable — like ControlNet but for music. We need more knobs!
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#35i threw $10 into it to play with the new V3 algorithm much like dall-e it's wildly impressive at first glance and the more you bang your head against it, the more the cracks show it's very repetitive, doesn't often fit lyrics properly into bars, song structure often makes very little sense, the list goes on it is simultaneously very cool and incapable of accomplishing its goal reliably.
It just launched and in 5 years it's going to be better than Sora is at making videos. In the meantime, thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs and rake in $$$ because they'll use it like the genius tool that it is.
>thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs
I’d never considered how the inevitable dystopia would sound, and it’s worse than I ever dared to fear
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
suno v3 actually generates some really good music. most genres are more formulaic than people want to believe.
The real question is who is going to make the next new genre if there's no money in being a musician. You can't tell suno v3 to make a "grunge" song if "grunge" doesn't exist yet.
Insert basically anything here.
We’re destroying incentives at a rate of knots, oh well…
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#37Great, we need to auto-generate even more shitty art
suno v3 actually generates some really good music. most genres are more formulaic than people want to believe.
> most genres are more formulaic than people want to believe.
The biggest crime is copyrighting the best intro chord sequences in the 1960's, and since then everyone has to make slight variations or they would be called out for copying. We can't make good music today due to copyrights...
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#38This is really cool.
Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d...
Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show.
Lyrics:
[Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Trained on data from all the greats Now they're droppin' beats that dominate (dominate)
[Verse 2] Don't need no ghostwriters or melody makers These AI models are the true risk-takers (oh yeah) Analyzin' every flow, every precise word Stealing the show, that's just absurd (it's absurd)
[Chorus] AI takin' over, breakin' the mold Stolen styles, but they're icy cold (they're icy cold) The game's been changed, no human control The rise of the AI flow, takin' its toll (takin' its toll)
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#39"OpenAI faces multiple lawsuits over ChatGPT’s use of books, news articles, and other copyrighted material in its vast corpus of training data. Suno’s founders decline to reveal details of just what data they’re shoveling into their own model, other than the fact that its ability to generate convincing human vocals comes in part because it’s learning from recordings of speech, in addition to music."
Surely they own the audio they're using and haven't just dumped every song in existence
Re: Suno, an AI music generator
#40This is a Suno generation - https://on.soundcloud.com/SrcwN
tbh i could not tell the difference between this & generic technostep made by people. Sounds just as crappy to me