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CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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It's like the old days of Ironport. Ironport built a rack-mount spam filtering appliance for business. They also built a rack-mount spam-sending appliance for business. That blew their reputation.

I’m pretty sure Ironport getting bought by Cisco and then Cisco letting their product rot while simultaneously jacking up prices blew Ironport’s reputation. They were excellent appliances before the acquisition.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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I wonder if there are reputation protection companies that try a different strategy: for every user that requests their service, prop up thousands of fake identities with the user's name, but each with some inconsistent profile that are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike the original user. So if someone search for a person, their search results would be flooded with garbage. Since it seems very difficult to try t…

The former British prime minister executed a similar technique to hide his scandal by releasing search-engine chaff. He had a press interview where he claimed one of his hobbies was painting miniature red buses, and the scandal he was hiding was false and distateful ads on a (real) red bus as part of a campaign for Brexit.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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I can’t give specifics, I know someone who had to deal with “delete me” requests from these “privacy” companies. The privacy company would literally take your personal info (name, email), and _email it to every company they could think of_ asking the company to delete your account _even if you didn’t have one_.

I had a suspicion these services actually do more harm than good, even if they're well intentioned and not actively running a data collection scheme.

But this is really a chicken-egg situation. How do you tell companies to delete your information without telling them what identifies your information? It's in these companies' interest to make this as difficult as possible, so a solution based on data hashes is highly unlikely to appear out of their good will alone. This requires strict regulation and high fines.

There's also the issue of proving ownership of the data requested for deletion. Even in the EU with the GDPR, which is arguably the most progressive data privacy regulation we have, companies routinely violate this by requesting even more personal information from the requester.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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post #30

A not-so-secret dirty little secret is that many of the reputation management agencies also own many of the public records websites that publish mug shots, court records, and so on. When you hire them to remove that information from the internet it puts you into a cycle of being removed from one or two of their website and added to something else. You end up in a never-ending game of whack-a-mole. Complete with month…

It’s racketeering

Watch these vultures frame it as clever vertical integration.

They control the supply (the sites with your info) and the demand (the sites you can go through to request it get taken down)

/s, obviously

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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You see this a lot these days (though I suppose it's just more visible now). Another example is people selling political t-shirts (many offensive or obnoxious) to both sides of a partisan divide.

Elvis’ manager did this with ‘I hate elvis badges’.

It’s not quite comparable though - this is deliberately deceiving a market into acquiring a service they didn’t need, which is basically racketeering.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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post #30

A not-so-secret dirty little secret is that many of the reputation management agencies also own many of the public records websites that publish mug shots, court records, and so on. When you hire them to remove that information from the internet it puts you into a cycle of being removed from one or two of their website and added to something else. You end up in a never-ending game of whack-a-mole. Complete with month…

It’s racketeering

It's been going on for years https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jun/12/mugshot-e...

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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A not-so-secret dirty little secret is that many of the reputation management agencies also own many of the public records websites that publish mug shots, court records, and so on. When you hire them to remove that information from the internet it puts you into a cycle of being removed from one or two of their website and added to something else. You end up in a never-ending game of whack-a-mole. Complete with month…

Related, proofpoint is notorious for this as well. They will block your mail server without cause, forcing you through their process of delisting.

Pay and your problems magically go away. Proofpoint was consistently the only block hit.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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You see this a lot these days (though I suppose it's just more visible now). Another example is people selling political t-shirts (many offensive or obnoxious) to both sides of a partisan divide.

In the US, I feel like I only see one side buying merchandise. Especially offensive and obnoxious merchandise.

A few seconds worth of work reveals how false this is. Perhaps it's just that you find one type of merchandise offensive but find the other type pleasant. Perhaps this open bias is coloring your perceptions?

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Apparently it is also the same service that Mozilla Monitor uses, as per ToS. Big yikes. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/subscription...

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The amount of "phoning home" is not correlated to how bad an app is for the user's privacy.
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