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Porn Sites Need Age-Verification Systems in Texas, Court Rules

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Re: Porn Sites Need Age-Verification Systems in Texas, Court Rules

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Post by sillysaurusx »

nerdjon wrote: post #10

> Texas cannot enforce a provision requiring porn websites to "display health warnings about the effects of the consumption of pornography." Well at least some common sense prevailed, there is zero reason to have a notice like that. Like I kinda get on paper how you could come to the conclusion of needing to do something like this (the ID part), I mean generally (unless you look a certain age) you do have to show you…

If anything, the stigma is growing, not fading. I’m not sure why. People who grow it tend to say that there’s new evidence porn will cause mental problems. Or relationship problems. Both claims seem suspect, but I don’t doubt that some people react badly to it.

Unfortunately the era of "viewer discretion advised" seems to be closing. Today it’s punish the broadcaster if viewers have an issue.

I do think there need to be tighter restrictions on the industry exploiting people, though. That seems to be a consistent fact: many people have claimed the industry is exploitative, and that there are few if any protections against it.

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Post by yau8edq12i »

nerdjon wrote: post #10

> Texas cannot enforce a provision requiring porn websites to "display health warnings about the effects of the consumption of pornography." Well at least some common sense prevailed, there is zero reason to have a notice like that. Like I kinda get on paper how you could come to the conclusion of needing to do something like this (the ID part), I mean generally (unless you look a certain age) you do have to show you…

Your anecdote isn't data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_pornography_on_youn...

I'm not saying that it's black and white, but I hope we can rise above the level of discourse of "I watched porn when young and turned out just fine". It's about as interesting as e.g., "I started smoking when I was 16 and turned out just fine" or "my parents beat me as a kid and I turned out just fine". First of all, what you might consider "just fine" is perhaps, well, not fine. Second, it's one single data point; well, not even a data point, but rather a hot take.

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Post by GypsyKing716 »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #2

Im in Utah which has this law. Now pornhub is effectively inaccessible because Im not giving them my ID but I think it largely backfired because everyone uses offshore sites now. Tbh Im kind of grateful because the offshore sites have much better content since its all pirated, but I never wouldve even thought of them until I was kicked off ph.

You can't legislate freedoms. You can try, but we've always had the tools to subvert (most likely legally on the federal level) and skirt the unconstitutional (face value, not a lawyer) nature of such things.

I'm a Christian, and live within my belief structure, too. BUT the path to redemption is either a chicken finger sub if you are a secularist, or a pulpit if your God fearing individual.

I just can't stand politicians who have 0-faith that try to leverage it without consulting those on the opposite side of the idle that need that Adam and Eve 12" whatever demonstrated on pr0nh0rb.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

phone8675309 wrote: post #19
jasonlotito wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"we" Being the parents of children. Let's be clear here. If your children are visiting adult sites in 2024, it's 100% on you. "gambling" I'm sorry, but gambling? How is a 12 year old supposed to gamble in limitless ways without parental consent? Please, let me know. I'm actually curious.

Tell me you don't have kids without using the words "I don't have kids" Kids gamble away a bunch of money from their parents all the time. Look at games like FIFA that are rated E for Everybody and all of the news articles about kids running up thousands of dollars in FIFA Ultimate Team Packs. Expecting parents to know that they need to be on the look out for their kids being able to spend unlimited money (well, up t…

Your example, where they spend money in a video game, doesn't match what's going on here. Adults had to attach their credit card ahead of time. This regulation won't help that, and future "prove you're an adult (in privacy invading ways) or piss off" won't help that either. This would be like dad buying a porn sub and then giving the kid their login details. The laws here don't help that.

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Post by ein0p »

Buttons840 wrote: post #14
HDThoreaun wrote: post #2

Im in Utah which has this law. Now pornhub is effectively inaccessible because Im not giving them my ID but I think it largely backfired because everyone uses offshore sites now. Tbh Im kind of grateful because the offshore sites have much better content since its all pirated, but I never wouldve even thought of them until I was kicked off ph.

Now we begin discussing a national firewall. With talk of regulating TikTok, I've wondered what the US would do if TikTok sent a notification saying, essentially, "just connect to our servers in China". The kids would do it, and then what? There are a few Internet regulations I've seen discussed that would require a national firewall to achieve their stated goals.

Yes, and then a few years later there also will be a ban on VPNs once the congresspeople realize their firewall is a lot less effective than they’d like it to be

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Post by AnarchismIsCool »

causi wrote: post #22

It's illegal at the federal level to distribute pornography to people under the age of 18. I don't understand why people don't advocate for repealing this law while at the same time saying internet companies deserve an exception to it. There is no other age-gated product, such as alcohol, tobacco, or firearms where "well they told us they were of age" is sufficient, nor does the responsibility for verification lie on…

I propose putting all age gated products under the purview of the ATF, since we are already well on our way to doing that.

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Post by 0cVlTeIATBs »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #17

What counts as a porn site? Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have porn on them. Definitely backwards for free speech and the open internet. Also backwards for privacy and security. If anything, sites should be prevented from collecting identifying info unless absolutely necessary.

>The law applies to websites in which more than one-third of the content "is sexual material harmful to minors."

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Post by nerdjon »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #21
nerdjon wrote: post #10

> Texas cannot enforce a provision requiring porn websites to "display health warnings about the effects of the consumption of pornography." Well at least some common sense prevailed, there is zero reason to have a notice like that. Like I kinda get on paper how you could come to the conclusion of needing to do something like this (the ID part), I mean generally (unless you look a certain age) you do have to show you…

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100%, it is one of those things that I think feeds into itself.

At a young age you may have been told to repress certain desires, or that anything outside of sex to procreation was bad (I mean self pleasure is still seen as a negative even though it is very important to learning about yourself) and then you grow up get and when you have the power to do something about this you are filled with anger and so much self hatred that you push for laws like this.

Edit: I just realized I misread your first sentence. But I still stand by this.

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Post by freedomben »

gtirloni wrote: post #24
Buttons840 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now we begin discussing a national firewall. With talk of regulating TikTok, I've wondered what the US would do if TikTok sent a notification saying, essentially, "just connect to our servers in China". The kids would do it, and then what? There are a few Internet regulations I've seen discussed that would require a national firewall to achieve their stated goals.

I feel like if there is one country where this wouldn't fly, it's the US. Not only because of the population but politicians would have a hard time justifying it when they openly complain about the same thing in other countries. Not that it has ever stopped them, but it'd be harder I think. The US still projects an image of freedom to the rest of the world. It's certainly not idolized as much as a few decades ago but…

I really hope that you are right, but where I suspect you may not be is in the assumption that to the average person not having a national firewall is freedom. If there is one thing we have seen in the US, it is that many of the people who value freedom and proclaim it the loudest, will gladly accept restrictions like this as long as they are in a nice sounding package such as the US Patriot act.

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Post by lolinder »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #17

What counts as a porn site? Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have porn on them. Definitely backwards for free speech and the open internet. Also backwards for privacy and security. If anything, sites should be prevented from collecting identifying info unless absolutely necessary.

More than 1/3 of the site has to be porn before the law kicks in [0].

[0] https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/html/HB01181H...

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