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Re: Astro DB

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Post by shafyy »

drewda wrote: post #9

I get that all of the current generation of front-end/back-end frameworks promised their investors that they'd figure out how to sell developer services, rather than just offer open-source components with some extra commercial support options... But I do wonder how this type of thing will actually compete against a billion headless CMSes and a million PaaSes already on the market...

> But I do wonder how this type of thing will actually compete against a billion headless CMSes and a million PaaSes already on the market...

They won't. I, for one, hate that runtimes like Deno and frameworks like Astro start offering paid infrastructure. This smells like lock-in from a million years away.

Re: Astro DB

#32

Post by azangru »

snide wrote: post #5

Comments coming from a years-long Astro user that loves it. I use it to power my own website. I'm familiar with this space because I also work at Xata (take that as a disclosure). This looks like a pretty simple data solution that might work for Astro's audience (content sites and hobbyists). They've split the hosting into their studio product to provide a way to earn revenue. Essentially you host the DB with them an…

> a years-long Astro user that loves it

Have you tried Eleventy? If you have, how, in your opinion, does Astro compare?

Re: Astro DB

#33

Post by biggestlou »

davepeck wrote: post #17
eyelidlessness wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably the main reason I wouldn’t choose Astro for personal projects where it’s otherwise a great fit. I think it would have been a more reasonable thing earlier on in product conception, but quite a lot of assumptions are now baked into their own custom template language. Which I’m sure is quite a nice template language, but it’s already hard enough to get all the tools to work nicely together without addi…

Yeah, I started poking at Vite to see how much work it would take to build an island-architecture-for-preact tool on top of it. It looks doable. Out of curiosity, when you're building a mostly static site that might want occasional islands of interactivity, what do you reach for instead?

https://github.com/ElMassimo/iles

Re: Astro DB

#34

Post by DrDroop »

How is something like this or other services like cloudflare's D1 an actual scalable solution for any serious app? Is it the pattern where you give every customer, team or "workspace" it's own database and manage this through some distributed kv store? I am just trying to understand how this is a relevant solution and not some weird SQLlite fetishism you see going around.

Re: Astro DB

#35

Post by snide »

azangru wrote: post #32
snide wrote: post #5

Comments coming from a years-long Astro user that loves it. I use it to power my own website. I'm familiar with this space because I also work at Xata (take that as a disclosure). This looks like a pretty simple data solution that might work for Astro's audience (content sites and hobbyists). They've split the hosting into their studio product to provide a way to earn revenue. Essentially you host the DB with them an…

> a years-long Astro user that loves it Have you tried Eleventy? If you have, how, in your opinion, does Astro compare?

Been awhile with eleventy, but I really like the "islands" concept from Astro. It lets me break out into Svelte when I need for server stuff. Astro is also excellent at building shiki, TS and content generation together natively.

Overall it feels a little less bare bones, while still being flexible.

Re: Astro DB

#36

Post by brianzelip »

shafyy wrote: post #31
drewda wrote: post #9

I get that all of the current generation of front-end/back-end frameworks promised their investors that they'd figure out how to sell developer services, rather than just offer open-source components with some extra commercial support options... But I do wonder how this type of thing will actually compete against a billion headless CMSes and a million PaaSes already on the market...

> But I do wonder how this type of thing will actually compete against a billion headless CMSes and a million PaaSes already on the market... They won't. I, for one, hate that runtimes like Deno and frameworks like Astro start offering paid infrastructure. This smells like lock-in from a million years away.

> smells like lock-in from a million years away.

I worry too, but here you can export as sql and csv.

Re: Astro DB

#39

Post by [deleted] »

snide wrote: post #5

Comments coming from a years-long Astro user that loves it. I use it to power my own website. I'm familiar with this space because I also work at Xata (take that as a disclosure). This looks like a pretty simple data solution that might work for Astro's audience (content sites and hobbyists). They've split the hosting into their studio product to provide a way to earn revenue. Essentially you host the DB with them an…

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Re: Astro DB

#40

Post by tristan957 »

pmcf wrote: post #38

Not to be confused with Astra DB, Cassandra as a Service.. http://astra.datastax.com

FWIW, Astra (DataStax) is more than just Cassandra as a Service. Other features include search and graph database support. An open-source "equivalent" would be Cassandra, JanusGraph, and Lucene.
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