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Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by imbnwa »

mschuster91 wrote: post #11

One thing I won't ever understand is why we allow large airports to be located in a way that puts any kind of infrastructure, be it residential, commercial, transportation or recreational, under the flight path for critical phases (i.e. start/land). Right where I used to work there's a memorial placard for a plane that crashed in 1960 due to an engine failure [1], and maybe five minutes worth of walking from where I…

Taking off from O’Hare airport in Chicago typically requires ascending over miles of residential neighborhoods

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by WorkerBee28474 »

ro_bit wrote: post #28
fotta wrote: post #3

takeoff around 11:24am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haRC034bj-g landing around 1:17pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdKhZSZiSM towed to the gate about 10min after landing you'll have to scrub because the streams are still live and I don't know how to timestamp a live stream

Why did the plane go all the way to LAX rather than landing back at SFO? It clearly seemed to be considered serious since there were emergency vehicles by the runway as a precaution. Is it easier to divert to LAX rather than land back at SFO in this situation?

If you don't have to land with a full load of fuel it's better not to.

And there was no reason to think that the landing would go wrong, because the tires are redundant.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by kortilla »

mschuster91 wrote: post #11

One thing I won't ever understand is why we allow large airports to be located in a way that puts any kind of infrastructure, be it residential, commercial, transportation or recreational, under the flight path for critical phases (i.e. start/land). Right where I used to work there's a memorial placard for a plane that crashed in 1960 due to an engine failure [1], and maybe five minutes worth of walking from where I…

There is more risk allowing homes to be built on streets where cars go.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by tycho-newman »

I mean,the plane still worked. Props to Boeing for making flying jalopies that fall apart, but not fatally.

That is capitalism at work! You want planes with wheels that don't fall off? Buy an Airbus built by those communist Belgians. Just be prepared for your lower stock yields.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by oynqr »

fotta wrote: post #24
kaycebasques wrote: post #22

I'm curious what the pilot's experience was like. Do I get a notification right away that a wheel fell off or was it a radio call from air traffic control? While I'm in flight, do I have a little camera or something where I can see the wheels? Because there's no way to actually go look at them when they're tucked away and you're flying, right? In other words how did they determine that they should still attempt a nor…

they have tire pressure sensors so I'm guessing that the pilot would get an alert that the tire pressure info for that tire disappeared

Boeing is going to fix this by installing tyre _presence_ sensors.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by gamblor956 »

ro_bit wrote: post #28
fotta wrote: post #3

takeoff around 11:24am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haRC034bj-g landing around 1:17pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdKhZSZiSM towed to the gate about 10min after landing you'll have to scrub because the streams are still live and I don't know how to timestamp a live stream

Why did the plane go all the way to LAX rather than landing back at SFO? It clearly seemed to be considered serious since there were emergency vehicles by the runway as a precaution. Is it easier to divert to LAX rather than land back at SFO in this situation?

They were above-weight for an emergency landing at SFO. Also, with the loss of one tire, even if they were within weight for an emergency landing, the additional pressure on the remaining tires from the full fuel takes could have caused a catastrophic incident.

In other words, it was safer for the plane to continue to its destination, since the reduced weight from fuel consumption during the flight would make a landing safer and the remaining tires less likely to explode.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by [deleted] »

WorkerBee28474 wrote: post #32
ro_bit wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did the plane go all the way to LAX rather than landing back at SFO? It clearly seemed to be considered serious since there were emergency vehicles by the runway as a precaution. Is it easier to divert to LAX rather than land back at SFO in this situation?

If you don't have to land with a full load of fuel it's better not to. And there was no reason to think that the landing would go wrong, because the tires are redundant.

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Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by hughesjj »

MBCook wrote: post #7

I would think this is most likely a failure by the maintenance department and not Boeing themselves but wow do they not need to be in headlines again.

Normally I'd agree, but these days I ain't going if it's boeing and I honestly wouldn't assume that anymore.
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