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WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

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Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

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There's something really appalling that I discovered lately and I can't believe there isn't enough uproar about it. Every attempt to talk about this gets ignored or buried (maybe by people who want this ""feature"" to be kept quiet) so I will take every opportunity on existing discussions about Facebook to bring it up: Facebook (and TikTok) store tracking data on iOS that the user CANNOT SEE and CANNOT DELETE: • It s…

This is nuts. There should be a grand total of zero files on my personal computing device that I cannot remove (no matter the consequences).

You can remove every file on your Mac.

And there are no eternal tracking cookies for Safari even first party ones are deleted every week.

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

#33
So any messaging app that wants to implement Whatsapp interoperability has to apply for it, pray to get their blessing and then sign an NDA.

It is probably a positive change for end users, but far far away from the "open up your protocol" I was hoping for.

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

#34

> 7.5.1. Partner User Location. Any Partner Users that Partner Enlists or provides access to the Interoperable Messaging Services must be located and remain in the EEA. Without limiting Section 11 (Warranties), Partner represents and warrants that it will only (i) Enlist and (ii) enable access to the Interoperable Messaging Services by Partner Users that Partner independently validates are located in the European Eco…

So what happens when a EU citizens go on vacation in the US? No more sharing messages between platforms until they go back home?

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

#36

> 7.5.1. Partner User Location. Any Partner Users that Partner Enlists or provides access to the Interoperable Messaging Services must be located and remain in the EEA. Without limiting Section 11 (Warranties), Partner represents and warrants that it will only (i) Enlist and (ii) enable access to the Interoperable Messaging Services by Partner Users that Partner independently validates are located in the European Eco…

And that they are reluctantly complying in bad faith in the most hostile way they found. Is this going to fly? Where do these 60 days come from for instance? How is it any useful and who is going to want to implement such interoperability under such terms?

This reads like a lot of words to say Fuck You Europe to me.

Well, feelings are mutual, at least we are on the same page, them and me.

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

#37
post #5

There's something really appalling that I discovered lately and I can't believe there isn't enough uproar about it. Every attempt to talk about this gets ignored or buried (maybe by people who want this ""feature"" to be kept quiet) so I will take every opportunity on existing discussions about Facebook to bring it up: Facebook (and TikTok) store tracking data on iOS that the user CANNOT SEE and CANNOT DELETE: • It s…

Not sure why you are using this thread as technical support.

Or what tracking data you are referring to ie. is it cookies or local storage but either way you should maybe speak to Apple Support.

Yes iOS apps can store local data and if you're unhappy about it then just delete or reinstall the app.

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

#38
post #28

Is there some loophole to just do custom WhatsApp clients without running your own network? One that never loads images would be lovely.

You literally have an option in WhatsApp do disable loading of audio/image/video.

Oh yes, it's there, thanks. I wonder when they added it...

Edit: Waaait a bit. I have it on iOS and I have it on some laptop where whatsapp desktop is an old version.

I can't find it on my desktop where their desktop app is the latest and greatest...

They probably "improved my whatsapp experience".

Edit 2: besides, that just doesn't download the photos, I think? They still take half the screen that could be used for displaying more text...

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

#39

The most hilarious part: "Partner represents and warrants that it shall not introduce into WhatsApp’s Systems or Infrastructure, the Sublicensed Encryption Software, or otherwise make accessible to WhatsApp any viruses or any software licensed under the General Public Licence or any similar licence (e.g. GNU Affero General Public License (AGPL), GNU General Public License (GPL), GNU Lesser General Public License (LGP…

Would be a shame if someone where to use the EUPL-1.2 just to fuck with them :)

Re: WhatsApp Messaging Interoperability

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post #30
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have usernames now. Using it with a dedicated username for whatsapp contacts could be a way.

Signal would have to change how they work for that, at present it shares your profile name after you've initiated a chat using the "username" - very confusing choice of wording.

What do you mean? You can set a nickname but they'll send your phone number to everyone you chat with?

What's the point of nicknames then?

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