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Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by lovegrenoble » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:10 PM UTC

Sebb767 wrote: post #28

lovegrenoble wrote: post #24

I've heard that Hetzner is a good provider, so I want to buy a cheap unmanaged VPS server in the USA. But can not find any mention about VPS. Any help, please? Just need to replace this one (the same bad story $$$ as Netlify recently): https://www.leaseweb.com/fr/cloud/virtual-server

You're looking for the cloud servers: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/

Sorry for my silliness, so 'cloud' is a new name for 'VPS'?

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by MonkeyClub » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:10 PM UTC

koolba wrote: post #16

sunbum wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloud is VM's Robot is bare metal

s/‘s/s,/ Otherwise the VM possessive reads like: Cloud = VM’s Robot = bare metal

Consequently cloud = bare metal; which agrees with the axiom that "it's not a cloud, it's just someone else's computer".

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by lovegrenoble » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:11 PM UTC

edm0nd wrote: post #26

lovegrenoble wrote: post #24

I've heard that Hetzner is a good provider, so I want to buy a cheap unmanaged VPS server in the USA. But can not find any mention about VPS. Any help, please? Just need to replace this one (the same bad story $$$ as Netlify recently): https://www.leaseweb.com/fr/cloud/virtual-server

Just use DigitalOcean. Easy setup and very cheap VPS options.

Thank you, Sir.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by MathiasPius » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:14 PM UTC

This is actually great. I maintain a library[1] for interacting with the Robot interface using Rust, but testing is heavily gated because of the potential costs it might incur, which is why a lot of the purchasing/cancellation APIs haven't been thoroughly tested.

With this billing, I'll be able to do thorough integration testing without breaking the bank.

And of course with hourly billing, horizontal scaling becomes much more feasible.

[1] https://github.com/MathiasPius/hrobot-rs

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by manishsharan » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:15 PM UTC

shortlived wrote: post #23

CoolCold wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still the case, right

Any recommendation for a provider with dedicated servers in the US? I’m with a provider now who is phasing them out.

There are several dedicated server providers in US but not much is known about their track review.

OVH has a datacenter in Toronto which may close enough to the US for many people. They provide dedicated servers.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by lovegrenoble » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:15 PM UTC

treffer wrote: post #29

lovegrenoble wrote: post #24

I've heard that Hetzner is a good provider, so I want to buy a cheap unmanaged VPS server in the USA. But can not find any mention about VPS. Any help, please? Just need to replace this one (the same bad story $$$ as Netlify recently): https://www.leaseweb.com/fr/cloud/virtual-server

Virtual private server == anything that is not a whole machine, usually referring to small VMs. In hetzner speak you want a "shared vCPU server". That's roughly what others offer as VPS, just more clearly spelled out (IMHO). You get fractional CPU usage that should be burstable and roundabout one core.

Thank you, finally I understood that.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by isodev » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:19 PM UTC

willcodeforfoo wrote: post #12

Last time I checked, Hetzner doesn’t have any dedicated offerings in the US, only cloud, is this still the case?

What does it mean to have a "dedicated" offering for the US? Hetzner lets you create servers in their US datacenter, isn't this enough?

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by stefs » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:21 PM UTC

lovegrenoble wrote: post #33

edm0nd wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just use DigitalOcean. Easy setup and very cheap VPS options.

Thank you, Sir.

that said, while digital ocean is great, as far as i know hetzner is somewhat cheaper. compare!

at digital ocean, 12$: 2GB RAM, 1vCPU, 20GB SSD, 2TB transfer

at hetzner, 10,50$: 8GB RAM, 2vCPU, 80GB SSD, 20TB transfer

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by CodesInChaos » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:22 PM UTC

lovegrenoble wrote: post #31

Sebb767 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're looking for the cloud servers: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/

Sorry for my silliness, so 'cloud' is a new name for 'VPS'?

VPS are a part of the cloud offering now. Just like EC2 is part of AWS. Once change is that traditionally VPSs used local disk storage, while cloud servers use network block storage.

Usually clouds offer additional higher level features, in addition to basic VMs, such as load balancers, object storage and managed containers. Though Hetzner currently offers very little in that regard.

Re: Hetzner switches to new billing model

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Post by bravetraveler » Thu, Feb 29, 2024, 1:25 PM UTC

isodev wrote: post #37

willcodeforfoo wrote: post #12

Last time I checked, Hetzner doesn’t have any dedicated offerings in the US, only cloud, is this still the case?

What does it mean to have a "dedicated" offering for the US? Hetzner lets you create servers in their US datacenter, isn't this enough?

Dedicated servers, the things we used before cloud or vps