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Is Tableau Dead?

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Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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post #13

I've been using Tableau since 2013 to deploy dashboards, which in my case are front ends to ML model output. (for me, I used it as a Streamlit before Streamlit existed) People think of Tableau as a dashboard tool, which it is. But it's also a great tool for doing EDA (exploratory data analysis) on multidimensional data. Instead of writing lots of seaborn/ggplot code (and having to remember the syntax), you can just m…

Out of curiosity, how do you think Tableau compares to data mining tools like RapidMiner for EDA?

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#33

My limited experience with Tableau is that it felt like Excel on speed. And heavily burdened by legacy (just like Excel or any Microsoft product is by the way). While what we wanted was something that was SQL-native. Back in the days we opted for a tool called Chartio which was later engulfed by Atlassian/Jira. Not sure what happened to it after, but it suited our purpose fine enough. Just line-charts and easily edit…

You might be interested in Evidence, a SQL-based open source BI tool where all content is version-controllable. Disclaimer: I’m one of the maintainers. A lot of companies use Evidence for customer facing and embedded reporting.

https://github.com/evidence-dev/evidence

Previous HN discussions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35645464 (97 comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28304781 (91 comments)

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#34
When I played around with Tableau it felt much more intuitive and easy to use than PowerBI. But I guess since people already had a contract with Microsoft for whatever product, adding PowerBI there was easier than pitching an entirely new contract for this product that ticked similar feature boxes. I am sad because I would very much prefer Tableau could exist for many years as a reasonable competitor otherwise I predict Power BI will just stagnate.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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post #7

I don't know jack about Tableau, but if the alternative is Power BI, I got a feeling they may be safe. My current company sells telephony and call-center analytics for MS Teams using our software, and during pre-sales meeting, one of the staple questions is "So we can avoid Power BI entirely?" followed by a minor thanksgiving ceremony and presentation of credit card. I get a feeling it's not too dear to the hearts of…

There's Looker too which is a much more cohesive stack when paired with BigQuery and DBT/Dataform

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#36
The place I work at uses Tableau, and it is thriving there. If it was up to me though, we'd move to some open source BI tool - but in the end, we're paying for Tableau for three reasons:

1) Premium (24/7) support if needed.

2) In-house tableau consultants.

3) Too many production reports have already been written in Tableau.

With that said, I've experienced some frustration with Tableau. Want writeback combability? That'll be thousands (if not tens of thousands) of *dollars per year* in additional license fees.

Want some other feature, same deal.

With that said, the licenses have grown so much in the past few years that our stakeholders have started asking around for analysts to check out competitors and OS tools.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#37
The best part of these dashboards is when the Big Four consultant creates The Perfect Dashboard, then asks to embed that nested unresponsive iframe mess into a web app. "Why it's so tiny, fonts are unreadable, and it's packed with scrollbars?!"

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#38

I hate Tableau with a passion. The main bugbear is that viewers can't see the SQL code the dashboards execute. I am no fan of Looker, but the "Explore here" allows other users to see the SQL and tweak it if needed. Most intermediate data stakeholders are confident enough to modify the where clause to suit their custom needs, allowing them to self-serve. The licensing costs are prohibitive, too. It is almost unafforda…

Apache superset has a good SQL support. Toying around with it, and while it has its learning curve - it looks pretty damn decent IMO.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#39

The place I work at uses Tableau, and it is thriving there. If it was up to me though, we'd move to some open source BI tool - but in the end, we're paying for Tableau for three reasons: 1) Premium (24/7) support if needed. 2) In-house tableau consultants. 3) Too many production reports have already been written in Tableau. With that said, I've experienced some frustration with Tableau. Want writeback combability? Th…

We had exactly the same list of objections to moving from Business Objects. Then, in its infinite wisdom, our holding company signed with Salesforce and we moved to Tableau. Significant work but relational is so mature that swapping the reporting layer is a safe migration for anyone... Good thing because it is probably not the last occurence !

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

#40

My limited experience with Tableau is that it felt like Excel on speed. And heavily burdened by legacy (just like Excel or any Microsoft product is by the way). While what we wanted was something that was SQL-native. Back in the days we opted for a tool called Chartio which was later engulfed by Atlassian/Jira. Not sure what happened to it after, but it suited our purpose fine enough. Just line-charts and easily edit…

What’s different between an internal dashboard and a customer facing one? I am mostly asking what specifically is missing from Apache Superset as we are seriously looking into it… for internal use
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