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Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

superkuh wrote: post #23
mortallywounded wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To all the 20 year olds, libgen.rs

Library Genesis is great, but it doesn't have much in terms of journal articles. sci-hub did but the attacks on them in Indian courts have made it so they haven't been able to upload new articles since Dec 2020. They only have pre-2020 articles. Anna's archive is basically just a combo of those two sources and some others things. I really, really miss sci-hub and being able to read research papers. Before sci-hub the…

sci-hub is still very much alive. It's just new papers are available under an alternate service called the Standard Template Construct. The STC uses IPFS to distribute the papers instead of hosting them themselves which mostly protects it.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by pc86 »

earthwalker99 wrote: post #24
giaour wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Community college libraries usually have access to the same databases as other higher ed institutions. CC tuition for a single class varies, but under a couple hundred bucks is typical.

The grade goes on your record, though. The time investment to complete the course with a satisfactory grade would negate the time I have to read the material.

Auditing classes, when allowed, gives you access to everything being enrolled typically does, for the same cost, without any grade associated with it.

And your academic "record" only matters if you plan on getting additional advanced degrees in the future. If you have a degree or two already you lose nothing by having a half-dozen Fs from community college classes a decade later.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by parhamn »

aeturnum wrote: post #29

Obviously this brings up the horrible unfairness of Aaron Swartz's treatment, but before you move on I encourage you to further get upset about the entire US prison system. Prisoners are charged high fees for access to basic resources[1]. There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost. This goes against any notion of just punishment. Consider pushing back against the p…

> This goes against any notion of just punishment.

Do you have a good explanation for this? I haven't though about prisoner rights much. The obvious layman view of this is "the whole prison thing is about restricting access to resources"

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by mortallywounded »

aeturnum wrote: post #29

Obviously this brings up the horrible unfairness of Aaron Swartz's treatment, but before you move on I encourage you to further get upset about the entire US prison system. Prisoners are charged high fees for access to basic resources[1]. There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost. This goes against any notion of just punishment. Consider pushing back against the p…

> "One family member in West Virginia told APBP they paid more than $400 in three weeks for tablet usage."

Access to a tablet and messaging outside the prison is hardly a "basic resource" and it's likely an avenue for exploit.

Should we treat prisoners like humans? Sure. Should they be comfortable? Not so much.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by superkuh »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #31
superkuh wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Library Genesis is great, but it doesn't have much in terms of journal articles. sci-hub did but the attacks on them in Indian courts have made it so they haven't been able to upload new articles since Dec 2020. They only have pre-2020 articles. Anna's archive is basically just a combo of those two sources and some others things. I really, really miss sci-hub and being able to read research papers. Before sci-hub the…

sci-hub is still very much alive. It's just new papers are available under an alternate service called the Standard Template Construct. The STC uses IPFS to distribute the papers instead of hosting them themselves which mostly protects it.

I want to believe. I've never seen mention of STC but I am searching now. That said, when I try to access modern articles through sci-hub they aren't even there, there's no ipfs URI to download to start.

http://standard-template-construct.org/ just errors out with 422 unprocessable content. I assume the ipfs proxies are blocking it or the like. So... do I have to run a local IPFS client to access STC? I guess I'll try.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by NickC25 »

aeturnum wrote: post #29

Obviously this brings up the horrible unfairness of Aaron Swartz's treatment, but before you move on I encourage you to further get upset about the entire US prison system. Prisoners are charged high fees for access to basic resources[1]. There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost. This goes against any notion of just punishment. Consider pushing back against the p…

>There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost.

And not that, they're publicly traded corporations who have to meet Wall Street's profit expectations. Sickening, if you think about it.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by skulk »

parhamn wrote: post #33
aeturnum wrote: post #29

Obviously this brings up the horrible unfairness of Aaron Swartz's treatment, but before you move on I encourage you to further get upset about the entire US prison system. Prisoners are charged high fees for access to basic resources[1]. There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost. This goes against any notion of just punishment. Consider pushing back against the p…

> This goes against any notion of just punishment. Do you have a good explanation for this? I haven't though about prisoner rights much. The obvious layman view of this is "the whole prison thing is about restricting access to resources"

Even without thinking too hard about purpose prisons actually serve in society, it's self-evident to me that prisoners and their families should not be thought of as piggybanks from which value should be extracted. This creates a perverse incentive to keep more people in prison, which is exactly the opposite of what we (as a society) ostensibly want.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by shagie »

parhamn wrote: post #33
aeturnum wrote: post #29

Obviously this brings up the horrible unfairness of Aaron Swartz's treatment, but before you move on I encourage you to further get upset about the entire US prison system. Prisoners are charged high fees for access to basic resources[1]. There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost. This goes against any notion of just punishment. Consider pushing back against the p…

> This goes against any notion of just punishment. Do you have a good explanation for this? I haven't though about prisoner rights much. The obvious layman view of this is "the whole prison thing is about restricting access to resources"

In many cases, the government is prohibited from providing certain things to people convicted of crimes at tax payer expense.

This then means that the government has to go to third parties and contract with them to provide those goods and charge the people using them.

For example, an ankle monitor - the state can't provide it and give it to the person for supervision and so the third parties who make them have a captive customer base - both the state and the individual.

When looking at items inside prisons, there are special requirements for them. They need to be transparent so that contraband can't be hidden in them. There are a number of other requirements for it too. It must run on batteries that can be purchased. This creases a very small market which in turn results in higher individual prices.

It is a complex topic that from one side or the other can appear to be clear cut - but the boundary between those sides is incidentally complex that results in a market that has prices much beyond what would be considered to be reasonable ... but the alternative is even more expensive or restrictive.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/how-one-of-the-l...

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Post by ttymck »

parhamn wrote: post #33
aeturnum wrote: post #29

Obviously this brings up the horrible unfairness of Aaron Swartz's treatment, but before you move on I encourage you to further get upset about the entire US prison system. Prisoners are charged high fees for access to basic resources[1]. There is a whole industry in "providing" services to prisoners at lower quality and higher cost. This goes against any notion of just punishment. Consider pushing back against the p…

> This goes against any notion of just punishment. Do you have a good explanation for this? I haven't though about prisoner rights much. The obvious layman view of this is "the whole prison thing is about restricting access to resources"

I think you've described the "punitive" notion of prison. There is, as I understand it, also a "reformative" notion of prison: removing dangerous people from society and attempting to rehabilitate them.

In the US, I believe the overwhelming preference of the public (the "obvious layman view") is that prison should be punitive. Other cultures seem to find success with more rehabilitation-focused approaches.

Re: JSTOR is Now Available in 1k Prisons

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

superkuh wrote: post #35
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sci-hub is still very much alive. It's just new papers are available under an alternate service called the Standard Template Construct. The STC uses IPFS to distribute the papers instead of hosting them themselves which mostly protects it.

I want to believe. I've never seen mention of STC but I am searching now. That said, when I try to access modern articles through sci-hub they aren't even there, there's no ipfs URI to download to start. http://standard-template-construct.org/ just errors out with 422 unprocessable content. I assume the ipfs proxies are blocking it or the like. So... do I have to run a local IPFS client to access STC? I guess I'll tr…

This is the one I use but yeah you need to run a local IPFS client to access the content normally.

https://libstc.cc/

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