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Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by armchairhacker »

evrimoztamur wrote: post #2

Much akin to the Hacktoberfest debacle, manufactured incentives seem to hurt public spaces.

https://joel.net/how-one-guy-ruined-hacktoberfest2020-drama

Very similar: some guy created a video and a lot of people submit useless PRs, except for a T-shirt instead of crypto.

EDIT: Except, Hacktoberfest ran since 2014 and there was never an issue before the video, which (unintentionally) brought it a lot more attention and gave a bad example of an “improvement”. Incentives can be good if designed and explained carefully.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by morgante »

Cryptocurrency has basically completely inverted the trust issue it's meant to solve (at least for many developers).

In theory, a decentralized ledger of project contributions / owners is a good idea for distributing sponsorship dollars without a middleman controlling things.

In practice, the brand of crypto has gotten so bad that developers are far more likely to trust centralized mechanisms like GitHub's funding.yaml and associated partners.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#33

Post by coldpie »

volkk wrote: post #19
coldpie wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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im confused, why's he a creep? did something happen?

Did you read the article? Abusing open source projects and wasting maintainer time as part of your crypto-scam startup business model is super unethical.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#34

Post by bombcar »

ubertaco wrote: post #24
colesantiago wrote: post #16

Just as an aside Tea.xyz is funded by Binance. [1] Make of this what you will, but I call immediate scam. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220323005603/en/Tea...

EDIT: if you're reading my comment, please see the response from Mike McQuaid, who's the _current_ project leader for Homebrew. It's good to know Max isn't involved over there anymore! Gonna leave my original comment below this line, so that the context still makes sense: ---- That fact paired with the fact that the guy behind Tea.xyz is the same as the guy behind Homebrew makes me _really_ distrust Homebrew going fo…

This is significantly disturbing, as homebrew is one of those "single maintainer load bearing part of the Internet" for many development processes.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#35

Post by lucideer »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #30
lucideer wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> more credibility I would say the opposite. Homebrew isn't a broadly well-respected project from a purely engineering perspective (i.e. by anyone who's engaged with it in earnest) - it gets contributions because it has user-capture / network effect, but there's a lot of contributors would would prefer to be publishing packages on a more nicely stewarded platform.

Are you kidding? I love Homebrew. I install it on my Linux devices too. It allows me to easily install up-to-date versions of just about any software I care about.

You're a user - I'm purely referring to contributors.

It's clearly gained popularity for good reasons - it's an API that is very user-oriented, with reasonably good UX for most people. The downsides are mainly related to issues users don't see (i.e. security).

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by aChattuio »

morgante wrote: post #32

Cryptocurrency has basically completely inverted the trust issue it's meant to solve (at least for many developers). In theory, a decentralized ledger of project contributions / owners is a good idea for distributing sponsorship dollars without a middleman controlling things. In practice, the brand of crypto has gotten so bad that developers are far more likely to trust centralized mechanisms like GitHub's funding.ya…

And it doesn't even solve the trust problem for anything off chain.

And even if it would than the question of which chain is the right one comes up.

Did you know there are fake nfts and you hardly can see which ones are real?

You literally need an initial trust anchor like a project website with https to learn about it. What a wonderful irony.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by saghul »

ubertaco wrote: post #24
colesantiago wrote: post #16

Just as an aside Tea.xyz is funded by Binance. [1] Make of this what you will, but I call immediate scam. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220323005603/en/Tea...

EDIT: if you're reading my comment, please see the response from Mike McQuaid, who's the _current_ project leader for Homebrew. It's good to know Max isn't involved over there anymore! Gonna leave my original comment below this line, so that the context still makes sense: ---- That fact paired with the fact that the guy behind Tea.xyz is the same as the guy behind Homebrew makes me _really_ distrust Homebrew going fo…

IIRC he stepped away from Homebrew years ago. See https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/graphs/contributors

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#38

Post by pksebben »

kibwen wrote: post #4

The financialization of everything is why we can't have nice things.

It drives me batty.

Consider a team of people building a house. They have all sorts of things that need focus and work - planning the build, assembling resources, coordinating specialists and doing the actual construction.

Now, add a second team who don't understand anything about what the first team is doing, who the first team have to talk to every time they want to buy a pencil or screw.

How it is that anyone thinks this is a good way to do business is completely beyond me, and yet we have entire schools devoted to training people to do this.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#39

Post by shepherdjerred »

lucideer wrote: post #35
shepherdjerred wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you kidding? I love Homebrew. I install it on my Linux devices too. It allows me to easily install up-to-date versions of just about any software I care about.

You're a user - I'm purely referring to contributors. It's clearly gained popularity for good reasons - it's an API that is very user-oriented, with reasonably good UX for most people. The downsides are mainly related to issues users don't see (i.e. security).

You're right, I misread your comment.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by aChattuio »

nocobot wrote: post #14

Max Howell (creator of homebrew) is also behind tea.xyz imo that give them some more credibility or at least makes me think that they probably are well intentioned

That definitely let me reconsider retrying nix as my package manager on macos :-(

Sry but if someone in 2024 still thinks web3 is an answer...

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