I'm sorry, cutting undersea cables is not terrorism.
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
And so in the current moment, why do you think the Houthis (if they are indeed responsible, but let's assume so for the sake of this argument) are cutting submarine cables? What do you think the intent behind that was?
I would guess, to be as much of a nuisance as possible to those they percieve themselves to be at war with with what limited capabilities they have. They can't possibly believe that this will have significant economic impact so as to hamper their enemies' capability to continue to wage war. This will strike fear into the hearts of no one. But it's damage, and they can do it, so they do.
So it's the use of destructive measures, which one might describe as "violence", targeted at assets utilized principally by civilians, for the purposes of affecting political change in policy by a government.
Were this to rise in severity from "nuisance", what would you describe that feeling as? What reaction do you think commonly provokes people exposed to negative stimuli into action they don't otherwise want to take?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
>"It's categorically terrorism by that definition." Another BS. You are forgetting "violence" in that definition. Bar that any attempt to influence government is a terrorism.
I mean, cutting cables is a violent act, property destruction is violence. Unless we're going to go with the weird reddit anarchist definition in which you can destroy whole structures and it isn't violence if nobody gets hurt because property isn't real, man
So the yellow vest were terrorists, as were the red caps. Which is funny, because that last movement was supported by 3 of the richest French industrialist. Can we nationalize them for supporting terrorists?
OH! And French farmers are terrorists too according to your definition of terrorism and violence.
Maybe violence against people and violence against stuff shouldn't be treated the same.
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#34Authorities of whom, the tweet is lacking a source or even information about the accident. Not to mention jumping to a terrorism case without any other details. I don't know how this is on front page.
precisely. this simply inflammatory
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would guess, to be as much of a nuisance as possible to those they percieve themselves to be at war with with what limited capabilities they have. They can't possibly believe that this will have significant economic impact so as to hamper their enemies' capability to continue to wage war. This will strike fear into the hearts of no one. But it's damage, and they can do it, so they do.
So it's the use of destructive measures, which one might describe as "violence", targeted at assets utilized principally by civilians, for the purposes of affecting political change in policy by a government. Were this to rise in severity from "nuisance", what would you describe that feeling as? What reaction do you think commonly provokes people exposed to negative stimuli into action they don't otherwise want to ta…
No. Man, quit trying to massage the definition to make yourself right.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
So it's the use of destructive measures, which one might describe as "violence", targeted at assets utilized principally by civilians, for the purposes of affecting political change in policy by a government. Were this to rise in severity from "nuisance", what would you describe that feeling as? What reaction do you think commonly provokes people exposed to negative stimuli into action they don't otherwise want to ta…
No. Man, quit trying to massage the definition to make yourself right.
That's dodging the question not a rebuttal.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Man, quit trying to massage the definition to make yourself right.
That's dodging the question not a rebuttal.
I don't need to rebut you, you're stretching the definition of "terrorism" to feel right. There's no question to dodge, "so what happens if this activity escalates into terrorism, would that make this terrorism?" The discussion was settled 2 comments ago. "Terrorism" is clearly defined. Breaking things to inconvenience your enemies in warfare is not terrorism.
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No. Terrorism is when people use terror for political purposes. While it is often synonymous with crime, the "terror" part is rather critical. Most often, the terror is over the target's personal safety, or that of the target's loved ones. Having an undersea cable cut does not terrify a sane person without extenuating circumstances. Therefore it may be an act of war, but it is not terrorism in the slightest. Redefini…
So if someone blows up a transformer substation, but no one dies, is that terrorism? What about a building? A government office? An empty school? Or here's a better question: what then do you call the use of criminal means, for political purposes, to gain compliance from local population and political authorities, when it doesn't include direct harm against humans and focuses on destruction of property?
Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, for political purposes. [merriam Webster]
Taking out a communication cable is not that by any stretch of your quite substantial definitions below.