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Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

#31
Very low-hanging fruit article. Perhaps interested for a mainstream audience but any IT professional would know all this even if Windows isn't their main thing. It isn't for me, I'm mainly Linux and Mac but I still abhor Microsoft accounts so I always bypass this requirement when I do have to use windows.

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I use OOShutUp and it's a huge time saver. Select All, or go with their recommendations and that's it. Always surprised at how many people don't know about it. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 > O&O ShutUp10++: Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11 > O&O ShutUp10++ is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or downloa…

Does it actually fully stop telemetry? I tried it in the windows 10 days and it didn't really stop everything, sadly.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Until the nuisance aspects of Windows improves I can't see myself ever moving back from a Mac. I say that knowing that there are problems with Macs as well, but Microsoft has absolutely zero respect for their customers.

macOS also has this passive aggressive "finish setting up your Mac" if you don't sign in to all apple's toys like iCloud.

I never use a vendor account on my devices (even on Android, I sideload everything) so it's pretty annoying when the system preferences box has that red badge again and I think it's an update but it's just that stupid reminder again.

It's also got the same telemetry crap. Even when you turn that "off" it's still extremely chatty to Apple.com domains in the background.

I don't think it's much better than windows except for the truly hostile stuff in edge like the shopping bar and pay later schemes

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

There is not a single good Linux DE. So the other option is macOS. Good hardware but the os is annoying in some parts.

I really love KDE. You can make it look and feel however you want and it's really powerful.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Installing Windows involves filling in about 6 inputs then waiting an hour. This results in a device that will happily chug along without user involvement for a decade. (Yes, it will have ads and automatically restart for updates, but frankly most users don't care. I do, and disabling ads and automatic updates took me 30m of digging, and it's been 6 years since I've seen a Windows dialog. I suppose I turned off the "…

Windows major updates reset things alot and enable thigs that were disabled. How can you have gone 6 years without seeing a popup when they have added things in the last 6 years during major updates that are enabled by default and show dialogue and notifications. Also you are obviously on windoes 10 and not seen the new nonsense in 11. My parents prefer Linux because it doesn't pressure them with pop ups and enabling…

I'm on Windows 11 and I keep it up-to-date which may be how I've avoided the automatic updates, but I'm as confused as you how I've avoided the popups and ads! I also have notifications entirely disabled.

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Yes. Frankly, there's still a lot of software that is either only available on Windows or only works well on Windows. Plus, for all its criticisms, Windows is very good at "just working" out of the box without having to fiddle with it. For 99% of of people out there, that's preferable to all the headaches you can get under Linux. And for gaming, yes, it's still essentially the only real option. Out of the library of…

Regarding gaming, the only real issues these days are exactly anti-cheat and VR. Most other games work perfectly fine.

Yeah the VR thing is a total dealbreaker for me :'( Otherwise I wouldn't bother with Windows at all.

But I play mainly VR.

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

There is not a single good Linux DE. So the other option is macOS. Good hardware but the os is annoying in some parts.

What's wrong with MATE?

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

Installing Windows involves filling in about 6 inputs then waiting an hour. This results in a device that will happily chug along without user involvement for a decade. (Yes, it will have ads and automatically restart for updates, but frankly most users don't care. I do, and disabling ads and automatic updates took me 30m of digging, and it's been 6 years since I've seen a Windows dialog. I suppose I turned off the "…

If Windows chugged along happily without user involvement for a decade, it'd be used for servers. Stuff breaks on Windows all the time

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Installing Windows involves filling in about 6 inputs then waiting an hour. This results in a device that will happily chug along without user involvement for a decade. (Yes, it will have ads and automatically restart for updates, but frankly most users don't care. I do, and disabling ads and automatic updates took me 30m of digging, and it's been 6 years since I've seen a Windows dialog. I suppose I turned off the "…

If Windows chugged along happily without user involvement for a decade, it'd be used for servers. Stuff breaks on Windows all the time

Haha, fair... Shit crashes. My work laptop has bluescreened twice in four years, and I take my gaming pc down about once a month with a game or render. But they're both still running today! Biggest fix has been a restart (maybe a few) and we're back up and running.

Ok, "chug along happily without user involvement" probably isn't the right way to phrase this...

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