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Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi users are in such a minority that I don't see how it is worth it for anyone to optimize for Kagi search results.

Yet. If you want to be better than Google, you need to avoid Google's mistakes.

With Kagi’s customers being users, not advertisers, they can put in features to mitigate against problems caused by SEO, like how Kagi bundles up all the “Top X abcdefg” lists that turned Google into trash.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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I've been a paying Kagi user for a few months now. The only thing that made me miss Google results was immediate answers: the answers that are extracted from a prominent web page and shown directly, so you don't have to click the link. Actually, Kagi has some of that for certain queries, but it's not as extensive as Google's. So, contrary to the most of the comments here, I support their AI endeavors for the sake of…

I’ve been really liking the quick answers[1] that Kagi added. The doc gives some info as to what triggers it so it seems less random. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/quick-answer.html

Oh that's awesome. I think I bumped into it once, but my search flow is usually always in a rush that I haven't had time to stop and think about it.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi users are in such a minority that I don't see how it is worth it for anyone to optimize for Kagi search results.

Yet. If you want to be better than Google, you need to avoid Google's mistakes.

Tiny Kagi has already shown an ability to produce better results than massive Google, despite them both dealing with the same SEO site gaming/structuring. Which is the reverse of what would be expected if Google's greater resources were also focused on quality.

Kagi already dodges the SEO bullet.

Disclaimer: I pay for Kagi. You should too!

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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I cancelled my Kagi subscription because it's a little too expensive for me in the unlimited search tier. And I search too much for the limited search tier.

I can't help but wonder if my money was being spent on pet projects like this instead of improving/maintaining the search.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Kagi founder here. This is very early (alpha) concept built by a single Kagi Labs developer in a few weeks. The proper infrastruture and product is not built yet. We are launching a prototype to get feedback and gauge demand. Why does this exist? It would be an efficient way for us to build and expand our own index. Assuming users of this would be Kagi users, we would expand our index by tens of thousands of high qua…

I love your transparency. Saying how it benefits Kagi, not just how it is a cool feature for users, is refreshing. It makes me trust more of what you say, and builds some sense of what the product’s direction could be. Thanks.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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post #34

I cancelled my Kagi subscription because it's a little too expensive for me in the unlimited search tier. And I search too much for the limited search tier. I can't help but wonder if my money was being spent on pet projects like this instead of improving/maintaining the search.

All companies allocate some fraction of their resources towards innovation outside of what is currently their core feature-set.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi users are in such a minority that I don't see how it is worth it for anyone to optimize for Kagi search results.

Yet. If you want to be better than Google, you need to avoid Google's mistakes.

This seems like a problem of the search space rather than solely Google's. How are you supposed to guard a system which, by its nature, provides financial incentive to others to game it?

No matter what weights and checks are put in place, some observers will notice how their rankings change and make appropriate modifications.

This isn't solved by Kagi's product, either. I'm a happy user and use it as my daily driver. That doesn't mean that, if it increases in popularity, the results will remain unskewed.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Kagi founder here. This is very early (alpha) concept built by a single Kagi Labs developer in a few weeks. The proper infrastruture and product is not built yet. We are launching a prototype to get feedback and gauge demand. Why does this exist? It would be an efficient way for us to build and expand our own index. Assuming users of this would be Kagi users, we would expand our index by tens of thousands of high qua…

Hi Vlad,

How will you prevent someone from connecting Sidekick to a website that appears at first to be a small website but eventually fills with LLM-generated SEO keywords and ads? You might be able to manually review sites when they first sign up for Sidekick, but once the channel is open for them to inject content into Kagi's index, what's to stop them from abusing their privileged position?

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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post #36
post #34

I cancelled my Kagi subscription because it's a little too expensive for me in the unlimited search tier. And I search too much for the limited search tier. I can't help but wonder if my money was being spent on pet projects like this instead of improving/maintaining the search.

All companies allocate some fraction of their resources towards innovation outside of what is currently their core feature-set.

On top of that, the top comment from the Kagi CEO says this was developed by a single developer in a couple of weeks... Yes they will have to finish building up infrastructure behind it, but as a paying Kagi user I'm more than happy to support any side ventures that ultimately end up making search better in the long run.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Kagi founder here. This is very early (alpha) concept built by a single Kagi Labs developer in a few weeks. The proper infrastruture and product is not built yet. We are launching a prototype to get feedback and gauge demand. Why does this exist? It would be an efficient way for us to build and expand our own index. Assuming users of this would be Kagi users, we would expand our index by tens of thousands of high qua…

Kagi is Japanese for key, right? We search with a search key. If I'm getting it right.

Do you know that "sidekick" is aibó in Japanese (相棒)?

Notice the "AI" in it?

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