I'm also annoyed that using an Apple Watch requires signing into an iCloud account. I stopped using iCloud a long time ago (currently self-hosting everything). Garmin smartwatches don't need a persistent login, which is why I purchased it. I think I will stick to Garmin watches going into the future.
Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
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Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
To elaborate, personally I draw the line at peripherals. I do try to use different devices for work and not-work, but I use the same monitor+keyboard+mouse+headphones (and desk, and chair...) for both. The Vision Pro is a weird middle ground of device and peripheral. When it's operating as a virtual display it's more of a peripheral, and it'd be nice if it acted more like one.
There are plenty of VNC clients for Vision Pro. Seems easier to just use those if all you need is a virtual display.
Is the experience any good? I've used VNC many times, and even over direct wired connections I'd describe it as "not great".
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#33Apple uses AppleID to authenticate globally. If the experience degrades without one OR there is too much effort to support this, I’d be happy with Apple making this call.
I feel it’s very validation seeking to rail on a company for not supporting the most “privacy focused” use cases. If you want an uncommon use case to be supported, don’t expect a profit-motivated company to do this. It’s just not in their interest. Furthermore, I use these capabilities to improve my life. So, I personally don’t want Apple to be compelled to invest in an experience that breaks from the Apple-y way.
(Not a fan boy. Maybe I need to accept that I may be becoming one.)
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#34Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id. Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re bein…
> Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id?
They exist, but they're mostly the companies that are the kind you'd never see on HN: relatively high-employee-turnover medium-sized businesses entirely uninvolved in technology - that aren't large enough to have an adequately funded IT dept - or where their IT is outsourced to a nepotistic MSP.
...the kind where IT policies are set by the same-kinds-of-people that banks hire that tell them to actively try to stop users pasting passwords into their online-banking logon screens.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#35This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.
Huh? That must've been a recent change. I used to log into apple music via itunes with my personal account while MacOS itself was using my work account.. yep, two separate apple IDs. That sucks.
You have one AppleID for iCloud and one for App Store, Music, AppleTV etc.
They can be the same or different. And this hasn't changed for years.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real crime is Macbooks still ship with a 1080p camera when their ungodly huge phones ship with 48MP
Do you want your laptop screen be as thick as an iPhone? It’s just basic physics: you cannot have 1-inch sensor with a lens right on top of it in 3-5mm of total thickness. Just the same way your eye is not flat but 2cm long.
the camera protrudes on iPhones making them not sit flat, why cant they add a little bump to the outter shell of the top of the Macbook to fit better cameras?
The options are 3rd party things to mount your phone that take up way more space.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but if someone wants to use a Vision Pro for both work and non-work, having two of them is a bit steep.
To elaborate, personally I draw the line at peripherals. I do try to use different devices for work and not-work, but I use the same monitor+keyboard+mouse+headphones (and desk, and chair...) for both. The Vision Pro is a weird middle ground of device and peripheral. When it's operating as a virtual display it's more of a peripheral, and it'd be nice if it acted more like one.
That just seems reasonable. Those items are the interface with you, the human operator. Of course you'd want those to be of your preference.
I agree. Let work stuff be computed on work devices and I'll do my stuff on my own things. Still want the interface to be consistent and comfortable.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#38This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.
I can’t use my wife’s iPad as a second display.
Joined her on a travel trip. She went to the office, decided to try using her iPad as a second monitor via usb c… nope. Can’t do that.
No idea why. It’s unlocked. It’s trusted. Why can’t it be used?
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#39> They employ a distinct brand of gaslighting and blaming-the-user that I have come to associate solely with them.
> Curiously this limitation wasn’t enough to make me return the device, despite it being part of my justification for it.
Why write such long winded post after considering the above quotes? In the end non of the considerations around work/personal apple id, MDM, etc matters when decisions are made purely on some brand persuasion. That's why Apple doesn't care
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#40Apple uses AppleID to authenticate globally. If the experience degrades without one OR there is too much effort to support this, I’d be happy with Apple making this call. I feel it’s very validation seeking to rail on a company for not supporting the most “privacy focused” use cases. If you want an uncommon use case to be supported, don’t expect a profit-motivated company to do this. It’s just not in their interest.…
> Not a fan boy. Maybe I need to accept that I may be becoming one.
Exhibit A:
> So, I personally don’t want Apple to be compelled to invest in an experience that breaks from the Apple-y way.
I'd say so.