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I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by dingnuts »

he0001 wrote: post #7

Jira tries to solve everyone’s problem. It tries to incorporate everyone’s idea of how and what’s needed to be tracked. I can just say from my own experience that the one that created the workflow and what fields that they absolutely must have to do some sort of follow up, have never worked as a developer or anything near a software project, and yet enforces all this garbage for their illusion of control. And yet the…

> that the one that created the workflow and what fields that they absolutely must have to do some sort of follow up, have never worked as a developer

This is all configurable by the JIRA admin at your org. You're not complaining about JIRA, you're complaining about someone at your company who set up the workflows. I figured this out after bitching endlessly about JIRA at company 1 only to move to company 2 and discover everything I had hated about the process was set up by my previous boss...

I thought it was JIRA, but it was the org..

Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by ch4s3 »

itronitron wrote: post #22
bschne wrote: post #8

I always wonder how much of this sort of thing is disdain for the specific tool vs. disdain for what working in a mid-to-large org. is like and the overhead it usually brings with it.

Jira + Scrum is a soul crushing nightmare, Jira + Kanban is fine.

Until someone comes along and tries to put some scrum into your kanban.

Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by MilStdJunkie »

Beijinger wrote: post #14

Never heard about it. You mean this product? https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/ While I have not heard about Jira, Atlassian rings a bell. Not sure why.

When you lay down to sleep, as your consciousness loses sync between limbic system and visual cortex, the Outer Dark hisses into your temporal gyrus: vast and precise architectures of obscenity, a choir of horrified mothers giving birth to dreadful machines. It is then that you know: every measure of human atrocity pales in comparison to the stupendous cruelty of the cosmos and its capacity for sin and murder.

That's where a lot of people usually hear about Jira, but it's going to depend on your org.

Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by dopamean »

Maybe I'm lucky but I have yet to work in a place where any of the organizational or project management problems could be blamed on JIRA. Not even as like a top 5 reason. I don't love many of the tools I use day-to-day but JIRA is the only one that I consistently hear and read so much vitriol about. I think there's something else people are so angry about and JIRA is getting an outsized share of the attention.

Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by DarkNova6 »

bschne wrote: post #8

I always wonder how much of this sort of thing is disdain for the specific tool vs. disdain for what working in a mid-to-large org. is like and the overhead it usually brings with it.

I am thinking the exact same thing. Right now I wish I could use Jira because I‘m using this IBM equivalent tool „CCM“.

CCM is so bad it’s nearly dysfunctional. Image Jira but 3 times the necessary clicks (this is not hyperbole).

With Jira I can see the good intentions and how they go awry. But CCM is pure madness from top to bottom.

Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by submain »

he0001 wrote: post #7

Jira tries to solve everyone’s problem. It tries to incorporate everyone’s idea of how and what’s needed to be tracked. I can just say from my own experience that the one that created the workflow and what fields that they absolutely must have to do some sort of follow up, have never worked as a developer or anything near a software project, and yet enforces all this garbage for their illusion of control. And yet the…

I share the sentiment and frustration of having to fill useless boxes.

However, as a manager, things go south very quick if you're not tracking what's being changed and by whom. You won't know what's included in your release, nor if it was tested properly. You won't know who to reach for fixes after testing or even what to tell clients when they ask if a feature/fix was shipped.

I hate overly complicated processes, but tracking things is essential.

Re: I Fucking Hate Jira (2022)

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Post by sverhagen »

bschne wrote: post #8

I always wonder how much of this sort of thing is disdain for the specific tool vs. disdain for what working in a mid-to-large org. is like and the overhead it usually brings with it.

My team does a lightweight agile process, we don't hate it. If we used a better tool, we'd love it. We have Jira, and I don't have the energy to change it, nor do I want the responsibility to decide or suggest what other tool that should be. I've always used Jira, I have no suggestions ready. I'm sure it's easy to pick a simple tracker, like GitHub Issues, but I would not know if it'd suffice all our needs and if it would scale, and again, I don't have the immediate energy to invest time into that. But meanwhile Jira is slowly eating away at me. I think the general concepts are acceptable. It's just all the rough edges, all the stupid little design decisions, and its slowness that I hate (passionately).
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