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Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#31

This is quite cool, but I really don't understand some people's affinity toward buckling spring switches, they're loud and odd feeling, not nearly as consistent as anything cherry or their alternatives are offering.

I really don't understand some people's affinity toward Cherry and similar keys, they're quiet and odd feeling.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#32

This is quite cool, but I really don't understand some people's affinity toward buckling spring switches, they're loud and odd feeling, not nearly as consistent as anything cherry or their alternatives are offering.

I think a lot of nostalgia built up in that ~10 year period where it was really difficult to find a new mechanical keyboard, so the old Model M (and to a lesser extent the Apple Extended Keyboard) developed something of a cult following.

Personally I've settled on Kailh BOX White switches as pleasantly clicky without too much resistance.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#33

I had a classic 101-key Unicomp Model M that I purchased while they were apparently having quality problems due to worn out tooling. The keys felt different than my real Model Ms and the spacebar frequently stuck. They've since refurbished the tooling and I hear the quality is back to the high level you would expect. For me though I just chose to retire the Unicomp and refurbish my real Model Ms. I bought three about…

Can confirm. I owned Unicomps before and after their retooling. The old ones developed problems quickly, and I've been on a new one since shortly after it was available, (three years?). Reliable, and as loud and clicky as it should be.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#34

These are the second loudest keyboards I've ever used. The first loudest plays a sound on every keypress (a loud typewriter keypress), with the sound instead changing to me yelling "DING!" whenever that key is . This is done in software, and I'm certain everyone who's ever had a hand in writing it regrets it.

I have a vague memory of setting up a Windows 3.11 machine at my dad's office to emit typewriter clacking from the PC speaker on keypress - and a separate carriage return ding for the enter key...I'm sure no one was annoyed!

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#35
post #9

Not sure if this breaks HN's rules, but I'd love to hear anyones suggestions on favorite split keyboards. There's a lot of homebrew boards out there that're very small/light but I have sausage fingers and the demeanor of an orangutan. https://www.amazon.com/KINESIS-Advantage360-Professional-Erg... ^closest I've found, but $$$

I like split ergonomic keyboard, and Alps switches, and prefer a Mac keyboard, if possible. Unfortunately, the Mattias Ergo Pro I’ve had since launch was not particularly reliable. Apple’s ergonomic keyboard has odd choices for function buttons and (a deal breaker for me) a terrible escape key.

I recently found a Gemini III P20028 which is nearly perfect except it is missing a “Command”/Windows key.

I also have an Apple Extended II which is my daily driver at a desk. And I have one of these Unicomp’s which I enjoy as well. I used to use IBM Model Ms, and like their switches almost as well as Alps.

For my own comfort, I’ve found switches to be more important than split. I’ve used Cherry and clones, and they really aren’t in the same league in terms of tactile response as Alps or buckling springs. It’s too bad they’ve become synonymous with “mechanical” keyboards.

I’ve liked the idea of many of the minimalist keyboards, but always want a full number row, dedicated Esc, brackets, Pipe, etc. I thought the Ergo Pro would be that, but when switches started double registering after only a few years, I grew cold to it. I have 30+ year old keyboards that are working great, anything modern and hundreds of dollars should do the same.

I’ve always wanted to try a Kinesis, but it would have to be so much better than what I have to justify double the price that I can’t really justify the price. After 20+ years of keyboarding nearly every day and finding boards that don’t give me pain, I have no reason to try at that price.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#36

I had a classic 101-key Unicomp Model M that I purchased while they were apparently having quality problems due to worn out tooling. The keys felt different than my real Model Ms and the spacebar frequently stuck. They've since refurbished the tooling and I hear the quality is back to the high level you would expect. For me though I just chose to retire the Unicomp and refurbish my real Model Ms. I bought three about…

I remember stacks of Model M's at radio rallies and other flea-market-type places. You couldn't give them away. If only I'd known...

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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post #32

This is quite cool, but I really don't understand some people's affinity toward buckling spring switches, they're loud and odd feeling, not nearly as consistent as anything cherry or their alternatives are offering.

I think a lot of nostalgia built up in that ~10 year period where it was really difficult to find a new mechanical keyboard, so the old Model M (and to a lesser extent the Apple Extended Keyboard) developed something of a cult following. Personally I've settled on Kailh BOX White switches as pleasantly clicky without too much resistance.

My model Ms are older than me, I don't think it's nostalgia.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#38
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which ergonomic model did you choose?

Not OP, but I use the kinesis advantage but if I was going to pick one again I'd go with the ergodox, also had a keyboardio but switching between types is kinda tricky and annoying

Anecdotal, but ergodox flared up my RSI terribly. I think it might be the shear size of it and overstretching my pinkies with the shift keys pulling double duty with parenthesis.

I’m now a happy user of the kinesis advantage (though the configuration software pales in comparison to the ergodox) and feel so much better.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#39
post #9

Not sure if this breaks HN's rules, but I'd love to hear anyones suggestions on favorite split keyboards. There's a lot of homebrew boards out there that're very small/light but I have sausage fingers and the demeanor of an orangutan. https://www.amazon.com/KINESIS-Advantage360-Professional-Erg... ^closest I've found, but $$$

I ended up getting the ZSA Moonlander, which I'm quite happy with. I probably would have gotten the Advantage 360, but the measurements indicated it would be too tall to fit on my keyboard tray and still slide under my desk.

That said, I eventually ended up getting "The Platform" for tenting my Moonlander. And while the tenting is collapsible, The Platform lifts increases my keyboard height just enough that it now no longer slides under my desk with my keyboard tray.

But I prefer the tenting, so I just live with it. I just unplug my keyboard and set it aside when I need to close my keyboard tray.

I constructed myself a Miryoku inspired layout for my Moonlander. Though getting the timing right for using home-row mods is very tricky, and it is unclear to me if it is worthwhile or not.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

#40

I've got one of these. It's difficult to beat the feel of those keys, that is for sure. But at full tilt I think the neighbors across the street can hear me typing. So it primarily sits in my closet these days, while I use a much quieter (but far from silent) CODE mechanical keyboard.

Yeah, it's loud. My wife complains about it. (I didn't realize how loud until I got hearing aids.) Fortunately, we have offices far apart from each other.

I've had complaints that a burst of typing sounded like a spray paint can being shaken.

I beat other kinds of keyboards to death in months. My unicomp is into year 4.

I had a stack of real Model M's from 87 to 93, that I got from a school system and refurbished in '97. Those lasted me an average of 3 years each. I got the unicomp after trying a few of the other brands in the gap after pounding the last of that stack into dysfunction.

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