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Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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I literally just migrated from Proton yesterday. Oh well, Tuta now i guess...

FYI I didn't log into my tuta account for a while and they deleted it completely. No way I can recover the data and personal connections I made using it. Also Discord was like "yeah you may have your Discord credentials, but we need you to check your email before you can log in again anyway." So I lost my Discord account, too. But I started using this new thing called Skiff and . . . Oh.

Their policy states that free accounts will be deleted if not active for 6 months.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Ah stink. Time to move then. Can anyone recommend a privacy focused email provider that can run free or cheap custom domains?

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I had not heard of this and at a glance it seems pretty fantastic.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Been using them on the paid plan for a 1yr+ and apart from working great and reliably I've been really appreciating how no-nonse and to the point their communication has been. Never realized it's also OSS, thank you for pointing that out!

Really easy to set up too, just make sure to also set up DKIM/SPF/DMARC to make sure the forwarded emails don't go to spam.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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May I suggest something to think over, what about -- “Can I walk out of this, and migrate elsewhere and how complex/hard will be that migration?” instead of the blanket VC-Funded or not. My thoughts.

Not OP. But why should I? It's a hassle to do migration. So if there is a non-vc funded choice, why would I bother with all the trouble?

Because in a couple of years regardless if you are locked in its going to end, change, or otherwise break.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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May I suggest something to think over, what about -- “Can I walk out of this, and migrate elsewhere and how complex/hard will be that migration?” instead of the blanket VC-Funded or not. My thoughts.

That's fair, although IMO it's additionally fair to be skeptical of making a long-term commitment to products/services that aren't funded in ways that permit long-term product planning and reasonably-paced development based on that plan.

I guess we all make our own risk calculations, but if it is truly long term, 5+ years then a SaaS is a risk regardless of funding.

Especially for my personal life where long term really means long term, self-hosted is the only safe option.

As an employee it's a toss up on whether your employer or your SaaS dependency changes course first. So a shorter term engagement is basically guaranteed and it doesn't matter that much.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Man. In addition to Skiff users, I feel really bad for the people working there, too. Imagine spending years of your life on one product, working hard every day to make it as good as it can be... all for it just to go “poof” one day so some executives and investors can get rich. Might have been the plan all along, even. Sad

You get used to it if you work long enough in the industry. I've had multiple products go poof over the years. Best to try not to let it affect you emotionally.

Part of maintaining a healthy work/life balance to be able to keep things separated.

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