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Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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happytoexplain wrote: post #25
frfl wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By banning the device, a country would be setting back their workforce of engineers and scientists a bit. You're pulling a "Think of the children" here. Rest of your comment is fine, but this first statement doesn't hold water. Any incredibly small number of engineers and scientists would ever use this device. A Raspberry PI, Ardiuno, or other general purpose micro controllers and small form computing devices sure,…

It's not a niche device - it's explosively popular and is obviously serving as a gateway for some young people into engineering and hacking. I couldn't possibly comment on the practical consequences to STEM of banning it. I wouldn't make that argument. But it's silly to claim that it's a "think of the children" argument and nothing more.

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Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Post by thsksbd »

thinkingkong wrote: post #23

Canada has totally lost its way. Housing is a massive issue. Healthcare is under constant attack. Immigration is used to prop up a failing economy. We don’t really make anything. Wages are lower than the US just because. There’s no negotiating power. The dollar is weak. We can’t extract most of the available resources because of the weather and environmental concerns. The praries are being sold off to foreign investo…

Is you're from the GTA come to Pittsburgh. You're still close to family and friends and there's a tech scene (if you're into that)

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Post by voisin »

dcan wrote: post #4

Like every other wide-spanning law the Canadian Government has passed lately (including the one on firearms and the soon-to-pass adult-content on the internet), I imagine they will ban swathes of legal products that use RF and do nothing to actually prevent crimes from occurring. Thanks to our Parliament!

Sort of like banning foreign buyers of homes to cover up the fact that they’ve given into NIMBYs for four decades and not built enough housing to keep pace with the population!

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Post by web3-is-a-scam »

photoGrant wrote: post #18

Banning a Flipper Zero for Car Thefts is like banning a BB Gun for Firearm Deaths.... You're targeting the wrong device lol. edit: Further perspective: You need something that can perform a relay attack. You need someone with a powerful enough antenna to find the remote inside someone's home and relay it to a person near the car. This involves at least 2x CC1101's > As you can see, small embedded antennas are very in…

this is just on brand for the Liberal government

They banned a bunch of sport shooting and hunting guns because they look “scary” when criminals largely use handguns to commit crime.

Licensed gun owners in Canada are statistically the least likely people out of all to commit crime of any kind (let alone gun crime), as they are background checked every day. Let alone the fact that criminals use illegal black market handguns smuggled from the US to commit the majority of gun crime and won’t have a firearms license.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

dcan wrote: post #15
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #8

A guy tracked his stolen truck to CP railyard. Police was sitting outside the railcar that had his truck inside. Police could do nothing because the railyard is outside their jurisdiction. Train left, he watched on the tracker as his truck was eventually shipped to Dubai. So.. I think CP rail is maybe a co-conspirator here? They have immunity from local law enforcement, and don't seem to require any title checks to m…

There’s only three federal police agencies - the RCMP, CPKC Police Service, and the CN Police Service. The local law enforcement has to pass off the information to the relevant agency to abide by the separations of power. The problem here is probably the criminal lied about what was in the cargo container, and to process the tens of thousands of titles to ship new vehicles to manufacturers is obscene - and even then,…

In this case a local police officer was at the location where the stolen vehicle, and probably hundreds of others were. There was no CN police present. In cases where there are no CN police, then local police should automatically get jurisdiction. Otherwise, like in this case, criminals just get a free pass.

> to process the tens of thousands of titles to ship new vehicles to manufacturers is obscene - and even then, criminals will still find ways to transport cars in shipping containers.

What whining is this about? Are you suggesting that we just let the thefts continue at scale using rail because 'paper work hard'? Are you serious?

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Post by Nifty3929 »

This just means that only criminals will use Flipper Zero. And they were already stealing cars. I don’t think they will mind one additional illegal activity.

But how many previously law abiding citizens will be hurt by not having this technology, or becoming criminals now?

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