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Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by Scarblac »

adontz wrote: post #8
grayhatter wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of the project is to write a completely independent browser from scratch. The effort seems focused to me, write a complete engine. Not write a small part of a browser. But why would reusing something be better? Reusing someone else code wouldn't be competing with them, it'd be depending on them.

Because you can have something usable instead of dreams. If you want to have completely independent code eventually, then replace modules one by one, while having a working product. Like Mozilla did with Servo. They had C++ codebase they wanted to replace with Rust codebase. They did not create entire browser from scratch, but replaced C++ with Rust gradually. While one figures what HTML and CSS layout should look li…

This is Hacker News, not just Lets Bring Yet Another Product To Market news.

He is doing this for fun and to be creative, is incredibly inspiring for a lot of people, and actually gets things done on top.

The epitome of a hacker, I want to be more like him.

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by angiosperm »

jraph wrote: post #30
kramerger wrote: post #15

I would love to use this as my daily driver, but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox. I hate what a small group of lazy front-end people have done to our world...

> but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox Which ones? I have always exclusively used Firefox and rarely have issues.

I can't get Reddit to work in Firefox or Chromium. No idea why.

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by kome »

kramerger wrote: post #15

I would love to use this as my daily driver, but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox. I hate what a small group of lazy front-end people have done to our world...

> I would love to use this as my daily driver, but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox.

you mean minor aesthetics differences or functionality? I just use firefox, I don't even have chrome, and everything works. And I use mainstream web, nothing too niche.

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by veunes »

jraph wrote: post #30
kramerger wrote: post #15

I would love to use this as my daily driver, but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox. I hate what a small group of lazy front-end people have done to our world...

> but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox Which ones? I have always exclusively used Firefox and rarely have issues.

Same here, I've been using Firefox for about five years now, and it seems like it opens absolutely all websites

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by the_third_wave »

la_oveja wrote: post #20
kramerger wrote: post #15

I would love to use this as my daily driver, but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox. I hate what a small group of lazy front-end people have done to our world...

small group of lazy front-end people? i think you actually mean a small group of chrome developers single-handedly deciding how web should work, while having the vast majority of the market share to push those decisions.

Well, no, that is not how it works. Blink undoubtedly has an oversize influence on 'web standards' (which are more and more defined as 'whatever Blink does') but that would not be that much of a problem if web developers built and tested their sites against more than just Chrome and Edge (Blink) and Safari (Webkit). History is repeating itself since the same thing happened when Microsoft's Internet Explo[rd]er was the dominant browser and developers only tested against that, putting a 'Best viewed using Internet Explorer' badge on their sites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by stuaxo »

angiosperm wrote: post #32
jraph wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox Which ones? I have always exclusively used Firefox and rarely have issues.

I can't get Reddit to work in Firefox or Chromium. No idea why.

Weird, I use it with Firefox every day.

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by kouru225 »

stephen_g wrote: post #19

It's really quite incredible that one guy basically started a project to create a whole operating system from scratch for fun and to give himself something interesting to do, and then accidentally created one of the most viable new browser engines in a decade or two... I've been watching the development videos for a year or two, and the speed that this has progressed in such a short time is unbelievable. Now they hav…

I can’t tell from the link. What makes it so viable?

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by jraph »

angiosperm wrote: post #32
jraph wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but a lot of popular sites don't even work with Firefox Which ones? I have always exclusively used Firefox and rarely have issues.

I can't get Reddit to work in Firefox or Chromium. No idea why.

It's often an extension. Maybe you happen to use the same problematic extension(s) on both Firefox and Chromium. Maybe try with an empty profile :-)

Re: The Ladybird browser project

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Post by jraph »

I have hopes it will become a daily usable browser. A new Web engine is great. I hope Servo succeeds at this too.

I would consider contributing but development is coordinated on Discord and I avoid proprietary software… [1]. It's a shame. Can't blame them though, they are doing it for fun.

[1] https://drewdevault.com/2022/03/29/free-software-free-infras...

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