> She’s sticking to her goal to transform 23andMe from a supplier of basic ancestry and health data into a comprehensive healthcare company that develops drugs, offers medical care and sells subscription health reports. The company hasn't the funds (or time) to develop drugs and I'm not sure why any investors would invest in them rather than a company with a track record of doing so or a potential drug. Selling their…
23andMe's Fall
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would impede their plan to sell 23andMe, including its DNA database, to China (or Russia, or Antarctica, or the next Martians that happen along).
Why would russia or aliens ever pay for it, when they can just steal it?
I smell a conspiracy theory.
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#33I was a heavy believer of 23andMe until this point. I answered all of the available research questions, which was a thing that took absolutely hours and was filled with semi-invasive medical questions. I did this under the premise that I would hopefully be helping research and I felt really rewarded having completed all of them. Then, they dropped the + bombshell and I felt really rugpulled. I paid them for genotyping on their v4 and v5 platforms -- so I paid twice, I referred friends, I bought people kits, I helped research...and now I was being asked to pay a subscription for what I was promised to begin with? Eesh.
I think the fundamental issue is that when the FDA stepped in and told 23andMe to cut back on their reporting that they really hit a roadblock. Promethease always gave better results than 23andMe, but when that happened it commoditized genotyping fully. Just download your data from any provider and use a third-party tool and you're set.
Fast forward to 2024 and they're stuck with a platform that's semi-limited and they haven't delivered on any of the research deliverables that many people wanted in the first place. The idea of getting new genetic reports monthly was appealing and simply never materialized. It's no surprise people aren't hot on this as a business -- but what is surprising is that they were completely passed by startups like Nebula Genomics in offering whole-genome sequencing and competitive data access. I think the stored data they have is their only advantage, but they don't seem to know how to leverage it.
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#34(1) Is that being associated with a penis pill pusher is brand destruction. Any normal person would get this right away without trying but executives just can’t see what their actions look like to their customers.
(2) It’s a form of achievement laundering. Lemonaid health failed, pure and simple. A circle jerk acquisition is alchemy that turns a failed business into an apparent success, now the founders, management and people who invested in it will get accolades for being successful when really the Silicon Valley Mafia stole from public investors to maintain its image.
It ought to be a lot harder for businesses to get acquired. Maybe we need a vote by the customers, maybe when Google buys a company they should be required to spend a 1/4 of the money on ads warning people that the business could get shut down, etc.
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#35Omg, how can a company doing genetic test burn $1.4b ? Altought better question might be, how could it be worth $6b ? :-)
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#36Oddly, 23andme adopted an extremely cautious, risk-averse strategy with respect to providing "health information". The result of this is that many other services became a more interesting/entertaining source of personalized health information based on genetic data (often 23andme raw data extracted and fed into the other system). I get new updated health information from 23andme perhaps 2 times per year. It's mind bog…
I have some pills for you. Just for you, mind you. Special made. Sign up for this subscription and we’ll send you a new supply each day…
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#37> Roelof Botha, a 23andMe board member and partner at Sequoia Capital, said the company’s big-spending strategy made sense when money was cheap. Now that it isn’t, “we’ve had to trim and focus on a smaller number of projects.” > Sequoia, which invested $145 million in 23andMe, still holds all its shares, he said. Today they are worth $18 million. Interesting that they weren't forced to liquidate/distribute the shares…
That would impede their plan to sell 23andMe, including its DNA database, to China (or Russia, or Antarctica, or the next Martians that happen along).
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#38I had not heard they went IPO. They are a penny stock now? Looking at those financials... yikes. I am kind of shocked how poorly they are doing.
What happens when the company goes down? they will still have the DNA databases
Their huge problem is hackers. All the latest news is how hackers have grabbed up those databases.
What's likely to happen, they'll self restructure, get to profitability, start a stock buyback program. But IF and WHEN?
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#39> She’s sticking to her goal to transform 23andMe from a supplier of basic ancestry and health data into a comprehensive healthcare company that develops drugs, offers medical care and sells subscription health reports. The company hasn't the funds (or time) to develop drugs and I'm not sure why any investors would invest in them rather than a company with a track record of doing so or a potential drug. Selling their…
I would have thought they were pretty well positioned to find new targets for currently untreatable diseases. But maybe they don't quite have the capacity needed to target specific diseases and/or data not granular and clean enough, or not enough capital/runway suitable for that kind of stuff. If they had the sequences for people with diseases such as alzeimers/Parkinson, they could just look for common mutations and…
Attempting to discover drugs is a proven way to make a small fortune by starting with a large fortune. Everything north of the Charles River in Boston would vanish if people stopped believing though.
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#40> She’s sticking to her goal to transform 23andMe from a supplier of basic ancestry and health data into a comprehensive healthcare company that develops drugs, offers medical care and sells subscription health reports. The company hasn't the funds (or time) to develop drugs and I'm not sure why any investors would invest in them rather than a company with a track record of doing so or a potential drug. Selling their…
I would have thought they were pretty well positioned to find new targets for currently untreatable diseases. But maybe they don't quite have the capacity needed to target specific diseases and/or data not granular and clean enough, or not enough capital/runway suitable for that kind of stuff. If they had the sequences for people with diseases such as alzeimers/Parkinson, they could just look for common mutations and…