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Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by capo »

citricsquid wrote: post #24
capo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5 start rating used to be a "core part of YouTube".

Like / Dislike is the rating system evolved, there was an article about how they had come to the decision through research that a 1 - 5 rating system doesn't work; people more often than not either like it or they dislike it, so 1 and 5 were the common votes. If you want to be pedantic then sure, they removed a core part of Youtube when they removed the rating system, but in reality the system evolved. 1 - 5 was (at…

Then it could well evolve further. I don't see a need for the "dislike" button.

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by ww520 »

lysol wrote: post #3

While I appreciate the sentiment and agree with his point of view, his simply telling Google 'go fuck yourself' doesn't really offer an in-depth critique of why these changes or wrong -- it just smacks of the same old 'Everything that's new sucks' sentiment that I can and do find on IRC every day already. Leave the analyses to the real UX folks.

That's his express of strong emotion, which is a very important data point for UX. Emotion trumps cool analytic fact in any day for UX. When a user is extremely annoyed, you change you UI/UX.

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by abeh »

lysol wrote: post #3

While I appreciate the sentiment and agree with his point of view, his simply telling Google 'go fuck yourself' doesn't really offer an in-depth critique of why these changes or wrong -- it just smacks of the same old 'Everything that's new sucks' sentiment that I can and do find on IRC every day already. Leave the analyses to the real UX folks.

Does not seem like a UX issue, but rather a business decision.

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by joejohnson »

This is annoying, but how is it a huge mistake on Google's part? Sure, they're going to annoy a few people, but I think that these tactics forcing people to use G+ will probably work. People will be forced onto this G+ platform whether they like it or not; the mass exodus threats about any social networking platform never materialize into anything more than a few users deactivating their accounts.

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by pavel_lishin »

joejohnson wrote: post #34

This is annoying, but how is it a huge mistake on Google's part? Sure, they're going to annoy a few people, but I think that these tactics forcing people to use G+ will probably work. People will be forced onto this G+ platform whether they like it or not; the mass exodus threats about any social networking platform never materialize into anything more than a few users deactivating their accounts.

How much does Google gain from having a bunch of people who technically have G+ accounts, but don't actually use them for anything aside from liking/disliking videos?

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by mgurlitz »

Tabletop made a huge mistake making their bottom line dependent on YouTube's upvoting system. What if YouTube decides to get rid of the "Thumbs up" system? Or if Google wants a share of your revenue from this service? See edw519's comments here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2255615

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by [deleted] »

iamgilesbowkett wrote: post #12
lysol wrote: post #3

While I appreciate the sentiment and agree with his point of view, his simply telling Google 'go fuck yourself' doesn't really offer an in-depth critique of why these changes or wrong -- it just smacks of the same old 'Everything that's new sucks' sentiment that I can and do find on IRC every day already. Leave the analyses to the real UX folks.

"While I appreciate the sentiment and agree with his point of view, his simply telling Google 'go fuck yourself' doesn't really offer an in-depth critique of why these changes [are] wrong" what you said is literally false. here's his in-depth critique: "I’m going to lose a crapton of potential upvotes for Tabletop, because the core of my audience is tech-savvy and may not want to “upgrade” to yet another fucking soci…

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Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

jdludlow wrote: post #21
NickPollard wrote: post #20

This is where I show my complete lack of understanding about Social Media, but really, what is the point of a 'like' button? The web is built on URLs. If you like something and want to share it with people, send them a URL. That's what they're for.

It's done partially because "everyone else is doing it," but there is also the "wisdom of crowds" value. The number of likes or dislikes is a quick metric that can be used for sorting, searching, populating a home page, or building recommendations.

It's also a metric that because it's tied to accounts is relatively hard to game, at least in a major way.

Re: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake

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Post by [deleted] »

lysol wrote: post #3

While I appreciate the sentiment and agree with his point of view, his simply telling Google 'go fuck yourself' doesn't really offer an in-depth critique of why these changes or wrong -- it just smacks of the same old 'Everything that's new sucks' sentiment that I can and do find on IRC every day already. Leave the analyses to the real UX folks.

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