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Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Metal Gear Solid 2, to be specific. A game shockingly ahead of it's time.

Wow, that was written, what, 20 years ago? Sounds precisely about today

The wildest thing about Kojima devoting an whole game to the way mis- and disinformation spreads via meme is the part where it then happened to him personally after the Abe shooting [0]

[0] https://kotaku.com/shinzo-abe-assassin-killer-kojima-greek-n...

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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The fake news problem is huge on twitter now, as if it could not get worse. I've seen people unashamedly post stuff that is literally false, not something false in a satirical or parody sense. It's becoming increasingly hard to separate fact form fiction. It will get to the point where in which the determination of truth is by some consensus process online in by competing fake or unreliable sources.

What I find baffling is that there doesn't seem to be a push for journalists to shame those of their own profession who cite it, or worse use it themselves ?!

(I mean, a little bit since the Musk era, but that's more because of his politics, they were happy to already use it during the "Trump era", and even before, you would have thought the situation was clear about Twitter being a cesspool in 2013 already ? Imagine if they used 4chan the same way !)

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Here's the point I think keeps getting missed in these discussions: monopoly. Why are we worried about social media? Because it's a system made by and for a small number of companies. We worry about how well these companies will bear the responsibility that new technology creates for them. Why do they have that responsibility in the first place? Why doesn't that responsibility belong to you or me or any of the other…

> billions of us have zero leverage over what ideas and narratives we participate with.

What do you mean by this?

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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post #7

I think this is an opportunity for traditional news networks to re-emerge as trusted news sources, by reporting only true and verified events. The days of going on social media looking for news are over, when people can quickly spin up fake articles with photos of some famous landmark on fire or in ruins it becomes too frustrating to discern between fact and fiction.

Do people really want to wait for their news though?

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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Here's the point I think keeps getting missed in these discussions: monopoly. Why are we worried about social media? Because it's a system made by and for a small number of companies. We worry about how well these companies will bear the responsibility that new technology creates for them. Why do they have that responsibility in the first place? Why doesn't that responsibility belong to you or me or any of the other…

> billions of us have zero leverage over what ideas and narratives we participate with. What do you mean by this?

As users of social media (Facebook, X, etc.), we have no authority over moderation. Whether or not a post is removed is determined by whoever runs the website itself. Critically, the person (or algorithm) who makes this decision is not even a participant in the discussion to begin with.

This is in contrast to traditional forums where moderators participate in the forum alongside the rest of the users.

In a traditional forum, a moderator probably started out as a regular user. On Facebook, they were either hired labor, or written by Meta's software team.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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post #18
post #6

Coincidently I just listened to this talk yesterday by Nita Farahany and got some shivers. https://www.aspenideas.org/podcasts/who-can-track-and-hack-o...

I would like to see podcast services provide transcripts by default. I rarely have time to listen but I would gladly read.

I ran the mp3 through a local whishper setup. Forgive the wall of text but chatgpt can make it more readable if you chunk it.

https://pastebin.com/8tG3Fega

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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The fake news problem is huge on twitter now, as if it could not get worse. I've seen people unashamedly post stuff that is literally false, not something false in a satirical or parody sense. It's becoming increasingly hard to separate fact form fiction. It will get to the point where in which the determination of truth is by some consensus process online in by competing fake or unreliable sources.

> The fake news problem is huge on twitter now Not really, considering the community notes generally call it out falsehoods very quickly. What a great system - Don't censor people, but do call them out for BS. Twitter is better than ever now, and people can finally get all the info to form their own opinions.

I liked it better when it was called BirdWatch. Glad Elon didn't trash it when he bought the place.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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post #34
post #7

I think this is an opportunity for traditional news networks to re-emerge as trusted news sources, by reporting only true and verified events. The days of going on social media looking for news are over, when people can quickly spin up fake articles with photos of some famous landmark on fire or in ruins it becomes too frustrating to discern between fact and fiction.

Do people really want to wait for their news though?

I do. There is such an information overload that I would prefer to wait until the weekend to read something decent and concise.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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post #16

Something I don't see talked about often here is the nature of human feedback reinforcement learning and it's effect on models like GPT. I think a lot of people are under the impression that this makes the models lie less and say things that are more accurate. The actual effect is that we've built an AI model that was trained to give humans convincing output. This is, imo, incredibly dangerous to the health of the in…

I don't get the spike in drama though. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" was a common sense maxim long before AI came around. What is so different now? If anything, it just amplifies the maxim, which is arguably a good thing.

Re: Social Media, AI, and the Battle for Your Brain

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post #3

Some good points from Raskin about the entangled relationship between the freedom of thought and the freedom of expression. But then regarding recommender systems and generative AI, I think he is saying pretty much what Lessig was saying earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37999405

So, I think this doesn't fly. Lessig is trying to extrapolate rules for a broadcast medium (magazines, newspapers, tv) onto a decentralized peer-to-peer medium, and it just doesn't work. If you have my IP and I have yours, we can share information without requiring an intermediate data broker. What Lessig is advocating for would make all ISPs, DNSes and backbone providers, the defacto gatekeepers of an essentially de…

I am sometimes not certain when they are talking about "the internet", whether they actually mean the Internet, or US platforms (including US Tiktok). The suggested copyright-tracking US federal blockchain solution might work decently on the latter, but (thankfully) certainly not on the former.
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