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Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

#31
Do yall ever think there could be more practical uses for research money than doing IQ tests on jumping spiders? These results could well be made up. After all, you'd hate to be the guy who spends years studying spiders just to conclude that they're about as stupid as everyone thinks they are.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Now if we only engineered a retrovirus to uplift them into complex social structures and intelligence... https://a.co/d/85Wwwhi

Jumping spiders are very cute though, and can dance - so I anticipate them being very friendly.

I wouldn't consider anything with that kind of dinner etiquette to be friendly if scaled up -- humans included.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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The more I learn about various living beings around us, the more I'm convinced that they are all unique, individual people, with unique opinions and desires. They have unique DNA and unique personalities. If you've ever spent an extended period of time with any animal, you know that they all have different personalities and opinions that differ from other animals of the same species, eerily similar to humans. They tr…

Is that moral justification for eating or stepping on the sentient being over the plant, just because they’re both alive?

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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post #31

Do yall ever think there could be more practical uses for research money than doing IQ tests on jumping spiders? These results could well be made up. After all, you'd hate to be the guy who spends years studying spiders just to conclude that they're about as stupid as everyone thinks they are.

> These results could well be made up.

OK, so how can we analyze whether results are made up, partially made up, credible, etc.?

> you'd hate to be the guy who spends years studying spiders just to conclude that they're about as stupid as everyone thinks they are.

I'm sure people would hate to fund that too, or have their lab or university associated with it. How could they avoid it?

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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The first time I ran into one of these cute little jumping spiders was in a backyard while I was reading a book. I felt something on my chair and moved and I saw something jump across to the small table next to me. I noticed that it was a spider. I didn't know spiders could jump like that. I was very surprised when it turned around and looked at me. Scrutinizing me. It literally was moving its head looking at me trying to figure out what had disturbed it. After that my girlfriend at the time joked that he was my little friend.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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The more I learn about various living beings around us, the more I'm convinced that they are all unique, individual people, with unique opinions and desires. They have unique DNA and unique personalities. If you've ever spent an extended period of time with any animal, you know that they all have different personalities and opinions that differ from other animals of the same species, eerily similar to humans. They tr…

Is that moral justification for eating or stepping on the sentient being over the plant, just because they’re both alive?

If anything it's moral justification for not doing that. I was pointing out how I kill living things in order to remain alive, even though I think they are unique individual people and it's troubling and confusing to me (because in order to live, another thing has to die).

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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post #31

Do yall ever think there could be more practical uses for research money than doing IQ tests on jumping spiders? These results could well be made up. After all, you'd hate to be the guy who spends years studying spiders just to conclude that they're about as stupid as everyone thinks they are.

> These results could well be made up. OK, so how can we analyze whether results are made up, partially made up, credible, etc.? > you'd hate to be the guy who spends years studying spiders just to conclude that they're about as stupid as everyone thinks they are. I'm sure people would hate to fund that too, or have their lab or university associated with it. How could they avoid it?

> How could they avoid it?

By making up results, obviously. That's exactly what I was saying the first time.

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