Why do I think its going to leave another bad taste in my mouth like overpriced Atom's lackluster performance did?
Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
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Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
30 times the power consumption. 7 times the cost (you probably wanted a CPU and RAM to go with the motherboard). No programmable pins for controlling the world. Closed design. It's just a tiny PC motherboard. Nothing to do with a Raspberry Pi other than the hook Sebastian Anthony chose for his title.
Isn't Raspberry Pi also pretty much a proprietary design? Certainly the Broadcom chipset they use isn't available to the general public, nor is information about the chipset available without an NDA.
The Broadcom chip documentation is not generally available. Beyond that, you probably can't even buy the Broadcom chip.
The GPU (the bulk of the chip's compute power) is a black box with a binary library that works with some versions of Linux for the time being but will eventually be abandoned by whoever is wrote it. That is just the current state of the world for embedded GPUs.
But looking outward…
The Raspberry Pi Foundation commits to documenting the exposed hardware of the SoC in their FAQ. (Think GPIOs, analogs, serials, etc).
The computer itself is has published schematics: http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Raspbe...
I got the impression that the Raspberry Pi Foundation was thinking about how to license the design, perhaps a CC, but I don't see that they have made a decision. It is in many ways it is moot. They could give you the Gerber files, but you wouldn't be able to get a BCM2835.
Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#33I don't really see that this has much to do with the Raspberry Pi. If the board without the (much more powerful) CPU alone is $100, it's not really comparable other than being relatively small.
My first thought was "watch out bicycle makers, other people are making cars ". The RasPi is a disposable learning and tinkering board like an arduino. This Intel thing is just a laptop without a screen. Genuinely nothing to see here.
Yet, it is. A lot of people interested in the RasPi would be far better of with something like this (people are seriously considering using the RasPi as a workstation, and a lot of hype comes from that people actually expect it to be a laptop without a screen but in reality it is more like your old phone without a screen). And price isn't really that big of a deal anyway.
For hardware projects the RasPi is hard to beat (especially when considering the price) but as a HTPC, lightweight workstation or server this is just lightyears ahead (and for such projects price isn't that big of a deal). And unfortunately a lot of the hype around RasPi is around the latter.
Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#34"x86 Windows software ecosystem"
That's the whole point of the RaspberryPi.
The current UK IT curriculum:
Boot up Windows XP/Vista/7 (or whatever the school kept up with)
Login as restricted user, wait for virus scan to finish
Type some text into MS-Office
Don't change any of the settings because that might affect another user and we would have to get an outside IT contractor in to fix the 'problem'
The whole point of RPi is to have a turn it on and it's ready, one machine per student, system with an OS image that can be reflashed by the student in minutes if they do too much damage. Just like a 1980s 8bit micro
Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#35Watch out Hyundai! Ferarri just made a compact sports car that is 5-10x the cost of yours, and gets 5 MPG.
Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#36Geez, this looks a lot like the PC104 boards we drop into our robots.
It's bigger, more juice-intensive, and probably a lot more expensive than the RPi. It's not even in the same market league.
Headline fail.
Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#37Maybe Intel can buy XScale/PXA back. This is just sad.
Re: Watch out, Raspberry Pi: Intel unveils ultra-small Next Unit of Computing PC
#38"x86 Windows software ecosystem" That's the whole point of the RaspberryPi. The current UK IT curriculum: Boot up Windows XP/Vista/7 (or whatever the school kept up with) Login as restricted user, wait for virus scan to finish Type some text into MS-Office Don't change any of the settings because that might affect another user and we would have to get an outside IT contractor in to fix the 'problem' The whole point o…
Is this really a problem? Schools have long solved this problem with imaging software like deepfreeze or steadystate. Not to mention, they might not be too fond of emacs or or write a term paper on gedit. You can piss on Word all you like, but it gets used for a reason.
Its weird to see the rpi shoehorned into some poor-mans deepfreeze solution. Its really a hobbyists platform like the beagleboard. Its going to go into some cool embedded projects and power some cool toys. Its not another desktop PC. We're well served in that are.