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The case for single-stair multifamily

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Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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Post by lanewinfield »

exabrial wrote: post #20

No. It’s not only fire that’s a hazard, but a personal safety thing. Most men here probably never experienced being stalked, or having to turn around when your path is through a group of shady characters. In the Midwest, brick/concrete fire stairwells have another benefit: tornado shelters. While a sufficient tornado would decimate any wooden structure, these stairwells provide essential protection from the main haza…

profits and tax revenue? how about more housing for those who need it? or should we prevent housing for the 500,000 americans who don't have it because of tornadoes?

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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Post by Gabriel54 »

piombisallow wrote: post #28
exabrial wrote: post #20

No. It’s not only fire that’s a hazard, but a personal safety thing. Most men here probably never experienced being stalked, or having to turn around when your path is through a group of shady characters. In the Midwest, brick/concrete fire stairwells have another benefit: tornado shelters. While a sufficient tornado would decimate any wooden structure, these stairwells provide essential protection from the main haza…

Safetyism will be the death of civilization.

Of a civilization.

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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Post by whartung »

hiAndrewQuinn wrote: post #2

The Boston triple decker should be the standard home of North America and nobody can tell me otherwise.

Many of the new town houses in Orange County/Irvine area are following this plan.

They do not appeal to me, as I’m not fond of having to scale several flights of stairs, and the individual floors seem quite small, smaller than my first studio apartment.

My first town house was essentially three stories. The garage level, main living level, and a loft. But the main living space was the majority of the square footage so there was little routine need to scale the stairs.

Also the main living/dining/kitchen area shared with the loft offering a nice, high ceiling, and a roomy experience.

While I can certainly appreciate the benefits of the density these provide, the idea of living in several 400-500 sq ft boxes, especially connected with stairs, just doesn’t appeal to me, particularly as I age.

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Post by cjwilliams »

exabrial wrote: post #20

No. It’s not only fire that’s a hazard, but a personal safety thing. Most men here probably never experienced being stalked, or having to turn around when your path is through a group of shady characters. In the Midwest, brick/concrete fire stairwells have another benefit: tornado shelters. While a sufficient tornado would decimate any wooden structure, these stairwells provide essential protection from the main haza…

I wonder if building second stairwells in multifamily buildings is really a cost effective way of mitigating stalking.

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Post by ajuc »

exabrial wrote: post #20

No. It’s not only fire that’s a hazard, but a personal safety thing. Most men here probably never experienced being stalked, or having to turn around when your path is through a group of shady characters. In the Midwest, brick/concrete fire stairwells have another benefit: tornado shelters. While a sufficient tornado would decimate any wooden structure, these stairwells provide essential protection from the main haza…

It's fucked up that you have problem with society and you think the way to solve it is building code.

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Post by nadermx »

baq wrote: post #17

European here. I can't even put to words my embafflement upon having learnt that you US folks need two staircases.

The US has some very interesting requirements when building. In some cities, regardless of destiny, new buildings are required to have 1.x parking spots per unit or something of the sort as well. Which basically assures all buildings have to be designed for car centric life.

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Post by LandoCalrissian »

Why not get rid of all fire safety protections? We can really get moving then. The ADA is pretty onerous, if we just ignore that we can have it up in half the time! I don't REALLY need all that electrical grounding in my house, all that extra copper adds up you know, think of how many more houses we could build without it?

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Post by ghaff »

explaininjs wrote: post #26
hobs wrote: post #16

No mention of the ADA in the entire article - I guess people with mobility issues should go fly a kite.

Living in boston with a broken leg certainly made me very proficient in the {carry crutches while hobbling up and down countless staircases using only the railing to lift my entire body up and down with one arm} waddle. Anyone with anything more debilitating should steer clear.

Although a lot of houses outside of cities require you to go up a flight of stairs. I own a house with a single staircase and the only bathroom is on the second floor. Was on crutches for 6+ months once.
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