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Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

HPE took the PC server business. I'd hardly call that "wretched"?

3par has a less than great reputation

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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I work in a primarily Juniper environment, and I'm not that familiar with HPE (Did they previously have anything in the networking space?). It's sounding pretty doom-and-gloom in here, what should my level of concern be?

I would be pretty bummed to change vendor. Junos is probably my favorite networking OS. The CLI is comfortable, BSD is never too far away, and the config structure is gorgeous. IOS (and similar) can really be a pain to read by comparison.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…

Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

I print well below 100 pages a year. What would be the price per page using an enterprise grade printer?

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Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

I print well below 100 pages a year. What would be the price per page using an enterprise grade printer?

If you get a used one, might not be that bad.

But a consumer Brother is probably the way to go. Always search the model number and see what people say.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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I work in a primarily Juniper environment, and I'm not that familiar with HPE (Did they previously have anything in the networking space?). It's sounding pretty doom-and-gloom in here, what should my level of concern be? I would be pretty bummed to change vendor. Junos is probably my favorite networking OS. The CLI is comfortable, BSD is never too far away, and the config structure is gorgeous . IOS (and similar) can…

HP had their own ProCurve networking and they also bought Aruba.

We don't know what HPE is going to do to Juniper specifically, but in general many acquisitions either raise prices or simplify the product line by canceling some products. In this case HPE may cancel some Aruba products and replace them with Mist equivalents.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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I remember working with Juniper equipment a decade ago (I didn't like it because I've traditionally worked exclusively with Cisco equipment), but I haven't heard anyone in my circles mention Juniper since. Are they considered a niche vendor today (similar to Novell in the 2000s)?

Companies go with Juniper because they can outfit a data center at half the price of Cisco. NYSE did that a decade or more ago with their Mahwah data center. Its not really a bad strategy. If you're going to have a large team of network engineers work continuously on a the Juniper tech stack, they'll get use to it - even if they were raised on Cisco IOS. Juniper stuff works just as well as the rest of them.

But Arista is probably half the price of Juniper so that doesn't make much sense.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…

> Good business as in earning money

in the late 80's, when Desktop Publishing was a thing.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Doesn't HPE still have a competent HPC division with Cray and the Chapel language?

I believe all the cray stuff is being spun down and discontinued.

They seem to be pretty represented in TOP500 with Slingshot. Shame if it is dead.
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