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Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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After watching 1000's of Ukrainian drone videos, it's absolutely terrifying for the foot soldier these days. You almost stand zero chance and as for vehicles, it can seriously impact their usefulness. APC's,Tanks become scrap metal from a $500 drone carrying a shaped charge. The US has always depended on air superiority to fight its wars, they are completely unprepared for what facing an enemy with superior air defen…

Which is why we should be halting the progression and use of the drones like we are seeing in Ukraine. No one wins a drone war.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently it's the French term for NATO (" Organisation du Traité de l’Atlantique Nord "), directly translating to "North Atlantic Treaty Organization". At least according to some random website I found after a search. I wish there was a rule that forced people to spell out an acronym the first time they use it, regardless of how much they think the acronym is common knowledge.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO It kinda is common knowledge though, the French version is right on the official flag and displayed all the time.

Given by the confusion in this thread and it being literally the first time I have ever read of heard of the acronym “OTAN”, I’d go with not-so-common knowledge :)

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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After watching 1000's of Ukrainian drone videos, it's absolutely terrifying for the foot soldier these days. You almost stand zero chance and as for vehicles, it can seriously impact their usefulness. APC's,Tanks become scrap metal from a $500 drone carrying a shaped charge. The US has always depended on air superiority to fight its wars, they are completely unprepared for what facing an enemy with superior air defen…

Which is why we should be halting the progression and use of the drones like we are seeing in Ukraine. No one wins a drone war.

The same way we halted the use of chemical weapons, which have seen rampant use in the Syrian war ?

Unfortunately these measures do not seem to work.. If even one actor is employing them, the rest need to also employ them in a lack of a better defence.

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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After watching 1000's of Ukrainian drone videos, it's absolutely terrifying for the foot soldier these days. You almost stand zero chance and as for vehicles, it can seriously impact their usefulness. APC's,Tanks become scrap metal from a $500 drone carrying a shaped charge. The US has always depended on air superiority to fight its wars, they are completely unprepared for what facing an enemy with superior air defen…

It's been that way basically since indirect fire took over as the big killer, IIRC around WWI, maybe somewhat earlier. Odds of seeing the thing or person that makes you a casualty plummeted some time around then. Less a series of deadly contests and more bunch of very one-sided slaughters, and you just hope you're not in the herd being slaughtered.

Soldiering has mostly been wandering and/or sitting around and then suddenly something happens that you didn't even see coming, and it either gets you or not and there isn't much you can do about it, for some time. Pitched firefights with an enemy you can at least kinda see and face and actively resist or guard against do happen, but they're not what either side is trying to do most of the time. At least in wars between somewhat-modern militaries. I think militaries/governments like to downplay the degree to which that's true, probably because it'd hurt recruitment numbers, but now we get cell phone and drone videos straight from the front.

Of course, before antibiotics and modern medicine, you were probably gonna be killed by disease before an enemy could hurt you (and if the enemy did hurt you... yeah, good chance it's still disease that strikes the killing blow). That was (one part of) the unromantic reality of war in prior centuries.

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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After watching 1000's of Ukrainian drone videos, it's absolutely terrifying for the foot soldier these days. You almost stand zero chance and as for vehicles, it can seriously impact their usefulness. APC's,Tanks become scrap metal from a $500 drone carrying a shaped charge. The US has always depended on air superiority to fight its wars, they are completely unprepared for what facing an enemy with superior air defen…

Which is why we should be halting the progression and use of the drones like we are seeing in Ukraine. No one wins a drone war.

A drone is just some electric motors, batteries, RF control and a gyroscope/accelerometer. I'm not exactly sure how you could halt the progression at this point.

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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I worked for a few years in defense and it was the most meaningful work of my career so far but it is painfully slow and entrenched. There is massive opportunity for innovation. I hope he can move the needle- he was on the Defense Innovation Board a while back so he knows.

I'm curious as to what you found meaningful working for the defence industry ?

Genuine question. I am asking because to me it does not seem like "defence" whatsoever.

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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Maybe it was completely unrelated, but pre-Schmidt Google was nice. Under Schmidt it started its journey towards becoming the creepy stalker it is today. Never liked the guy, and wouldn't surprise me if he is working on landmines targeting children.

Google Adwords pre-dates Schmidt joining.

And so it's unfair to blame him for what is an inevitable path once you decide to become an advertising-centric company.

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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He was heavily mentioning drones in the Foreign Affairs piece [1] he wrote in the spring of 2023: "Innovation Power - Why Technology Will Define the Future of Geopolitics" > Drones offer distinct advantages over traditional weapons: they are smaller and cheaper, offer unmatched surveillance capabilities, and reduce soldiers’ risk exposure. Marines in urban warfare, for example, could be accompanied by microdrones tha…

Have you read the book Forever Peace? I think it's a foretelling of this, in part. The book doesn't have drones, but what it does have is mechs that fight wars with human remote pilots. War in the book essentially boils down to who can spend more money building more mechs. No humans get killed except by accident, or if the war happens to be against one of those impoverished nations barbaric enough to use human soldie…

I think since at least WW1 war has been fought between economies and production, with soilders just the proxy.

Re: Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Military Drone Project

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After watching 1000's of Ukrainian drone videos, it's absolutely terrifying for the foot soldier these days. You almost stand zero chance and as for vehicles, it can seriously impact their usefulness. APC's,Tanks become scrap metal from a $500 drone carrying a shaped charge. The US has always depended on air superiority to fight its wars, they are completely unprepared for what facing an enemy with superior air defen…

Yep. All the gun nuts with delusions of even the threat of a future armed rebellion are absolutely kidding themselves. You don't need an army or tanks or jets or helicopters to lay waste to an armed militia. You just need some bored kids with a few hours of flight sim training and enough drones to make it happen.
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