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At the very least we should have a corporate death penalty. Force the company into bankruptcy, de-list it from the stock market, and turn it into a worker-owned co-op that can never be publicly traded or be sold to private equity.
FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
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Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#32Good. Finally the FAA got a spine with Boeing.
They did it for the DC10 and 787 (grounded for inspections). They didn’t need to do it before because Boeing was an actual engineering company
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#33Is there any place to get the full list of tail numbers involved in the grounding? I just flew on an Alaska 737 Max 9 out of PDX a few days ago and am morbidly curious if my plane was one of the ones grounded.
* https://www.planespotters.net/aircraft/production/boeing-737...
* https://www.airfleets.net/listing/b737ng-1-statasc.htm
* https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-max-airlines/
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There don't see to be to be a lot of MAX 9s out there (relative to other MAX variants).
Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#34This is sort of ironic because they asked to bypass some safety checks on the 737 max 7 recently. Note this is a different model. EDIT: The bypass is about the deicer.
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...
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#35At least Airbus seems to be competent in building safe aircraft. I would not be surprised though if Boeing's sales drop if the US government brings in tariffs or etc to try and force companies to buy their flying coffins.
> At least Airbus seems to be competent in building safe aircraft.
Prior to new models released in the last ~10yrs-ish, Boeing made the safest planes in the sky (as measured by passenger miles). Many of those planes are still flying and still doing great.
For me the interesting question is what changed in Boeing's design, testing and/or manufacturing processes which is apparently resulting in worse safety performance.
Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#36Is there any place to get the full list of tail numbers involved in the grounding? I just flew on an Alaska 737 Max 9 out of PDX a few days ago and am morbidly curious if my plane was one of the ones grounded.
Just check the production list: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38891172
Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#37>The FAA said the inspections will take between four and eight hours per plane. Seems reasonable. I was wondering if a single event should really be enough to "ground" all similar planes, but seems like they just want to do a quick inspection.
It was a catastrophic failure of a two month old plane. I think grounding is warranted until the scope of the problem is understood.
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#38Two days ago before we got on one of these planes I said to my partner “don’t worry, it’s the most scrutinized plane in history”.
Famous last words.
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#40>The FAA said the inspections will take between four and eight hours per plane. Seems reasonable. I was wondering if a single event should really be enough to "ground" all similar planes, but seems like they just want to do a quick inspection.
It was a catastrophic failure of a two month old plane. I think grounding is warranted until the scope of the problem is understood.
Yeah especially given the public trust the FAA needs to rebuild after it came out how Boeing got the 737 certified in the first place. It’s an unmitigated shit show top to bottom.