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Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by newZWhoDis »

diggan wrote: post #26
csmattryder wrote: post #5

> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

> Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly? Wouldn't the right question to answer be why anyone would want to join the military? At best you get an average/below-average salary, at worst you get sent to fight in wars. Seems like very little benefits for a lot of risks.

The other problem is it’s not just a job, you sign away your rights for life and can be recalled at any time. Also, if you really piss them off they can recall you then try you under the BS military judicial system instead.

If you’re particularly unlucky you get blown up in the sandbox 6,000 miles from home and die for nothing.

Don’t sign on the line kids, it’s never worth it.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by cirgue »

diggan wrote: post #19
vsskanth wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who amongst GenZ would be qualified for a Rear Admiral position anyways? The job requires 20 years of experience in the armed forces.

I'm guessing they're trying to say, because Gen Z isn't interested in the military, they didn't join early on and built enough experience and knowledge to now be eligible for the position.

Anyone who’s old enough to have a 20 year military career is at least a millennial.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by Aloha »

poisonborz wrote: post #30
wharvle wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s the surest way to access European-like benefits for the lower class, in the US. Housing (for your family, too), healthcare (ditto), retirement, free education, paid vacation (if not much of it). Pretty good schools for your kids, mostly. But in most of the rest of the OECD, like Britain? Yeah, not sure.

Instead maybe simply emigrate to Europe?

How on earth do you think immigrating anywhere is an easy process?

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by rightbyte »

hotpotamus wrote: post #16
csmattryder wrote: post #5

> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

While I was never eligible to serve in the military due to a health condition, I can also say that violent video games had the opposite effect on me that many adults feared they might - I learned via first person shooters that other humans were quite skilled at killing me and was smart enough to know that there aren't any re-spawns in real life. As a result, I never wanted to get in a gunfight with anyone. Also, whil…

Even your "cynical" view is a bit rosy. Indirect fire is the main killer. Most soldiers won't even see an enemy soldier before they are dead or wounded.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by freitzkriesler2 »

poisonborz wrote: post #30
wharvle wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s the surest way to access European-like benefits for the lower class, in the US. Housing (for your family, too), healthcare (ditto), retirement, free education, paid vacation (if not much of it). Pretty good schools for your kids, mostly. But in most of the rest of the OECD, like Britain? Yeah, not sure.

Instead maybe simply emigrate to Europe?

Tell me how I know you've never LEGALLY tried to move to a new country.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by poisonborz »

Aloha wrote: post #33
poisonborz wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead maybe simply emigrate to Europe?

How on earth do you think immigrating anywhere is an easy process?

Easier than subjecting yourself to an abusive, aggressive, nationalistic organization with its own laws, that may take you to a battlefield.

I had known many who made the US-EU jump, it didn't sounded particularly hard (the administrative part)

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by deidei »

edent wrote: post #25

Isn't this a bit of a non-story? There's no evidence that they were forced to do anything. Nearly every senior job is advertised somewhere . For example - you can apply to be Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Gibraltar if you like https://apply.judicialappointments.digital/vacancy/lQlCzxeR4... The Royal Navy seems to advertise all levels of jobs on LinkedIn - and wider. Surely having an open and fair advertisement…

> The Royal Navy seems to advertise all levels of jobs on LinkedIn - and wider.

Wasn't aware of this. Can you please link to some more similar job ads? Is this the standard in other militaries too?

Based on what I know there is a roster of eligible candidates with the required experience in most countries. One of them is promoted from there to fill in the vacancy. I've never seen an ad for a post like this before.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by deidei »

dgrin91 wrote: post #14
milliams wrote: post #6

I thought "tob" was a typo in the HN submission but no, it's right there on their website.

It must be a typo from the independent, right? Its driving my insane.

yes, it is a typo from the independent.

> Its driving my insane.

Off topic, but you made another typo here lol

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by wharvle »

poisonborz wrote: post #37
Aloha wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How on earth do you think immigrating anywhere is an easy process?

Easier than subjecting yourself to an abusive, aggressive, nationalistic organization with its own laws, that may take you to a battlefield. I had known many who made the US-EU jump, it didn't sounded particularly hard (the administrative part)

As someone with a high school diploma and nothing else, and zero cash in the bank? Those are the folks to whom enlisting is appealing (in the US, at least). Not college grads in hot, in-demand fields with at least five figures liquid and ready to spend on immigration expenses.
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