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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by whstl »

samstave wrote: post #15
silisili wrote: post #9

How do sites that have porn but not their main purpose respond, or do they have to? Reddit and Twitter come to mind, I've stumbled across a lot of weird stuff on both.

Reddit had a lot of dark subs and users for a very long time, and they kinda just swept it all under the rug. /r/spaced*cks, ViolentaCruz, others I cant recall, and the infamous /r/cannibals controversy with a reddit founder and CEO. Yeah, weird times - not its many bots - and interestingly, in the last year, a boatload of .in India subreddits for various aspects of their culture (like IdianMotorcycles, Weird train b…

> "movie and celeb gossip subs"

I haven't come across the Indian version of this, but the default page (I don't have an account) now has a lot of posts from celebrity gossip subs, and the viciousness and hatred there is worse than what I saw in radical politics subs, or even 4chan.

At least the porn and NSFW stuff was hidden. This actually what made me block Reddit from my devices.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brigadier132 »

TriangleEdge wrote: post #11
i8comments wrote: post #2

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Pornhub is one of the most visited websites on earth [1]. So, my question to this comment is how do you define value in this case? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-visited_websites

Heroin and fentanyl are used by many and generate a ton of money and they are still of negative value to society. Usage and ability to generate money have nothing to do with value to humanity.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by echelon »

samstave wrote: post #15
silisili wrote: post #9

How do sites that have porn but not their main purpose respond, or do they have to? Reddit and Twitter come to mind, I've stumbled across a lot of weird stuff on both.

Reddit had a lot of dark subs and users for a very long time, and they kinda just swept it all under the rug. /r/spaced*cks, ViolentaCruz, others I cant recall, and the infamous /r/cannibals controversy with a reddit founder and CEO. Yeah, weird times - not its many bots - and interestingly, in the last year, a boatload of .in India subreddits for various aspects of their culture (like IdianMotorcycles, Weird train b…

> /r/cannibals controversy with a reddit founder and CEO.

Armie Hammer?

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by dymk »

Gigachad wrote: post #30
falcor84 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who considers himself a relatively informed netizen, I hadn't even heard of e621.net until now, and I don't know whether I should be proud or ashamed of that.

E621 is probably the best porn site on the internet tbh. I’ve never seen a site so well organised and searchable.

It's an incredible source of tagged training data - meticulously detailed and hand maintained

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

Gigachad wrote: post #30
falcor84 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who considers himself a relatively informed netizen, I hadn't even heard of e621.net until now, and I don't know whether I should be proud or ashamed of that.

E621 is probably the best porn site on the internet tbh. I’ve never seen a site so well organised and searchable.

There's nothing quite like a well tagged booru. There are more out there.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

dymk wrote: post #34
Gigachad wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

E621 is probably the best porn site on the internet tbh. I’ve never seen a site so well organised and searchable.

It's an incredible source of tagged training data - meticulously detailed and hand maintained

There's in fact a Stable Diffusion model trained on most of e621. Uh not sure what HN's linking rules are, but look up Furtastic.

Though I understand and respect furrydom, I'm not a furry... But in its niche of generating anthropomorphic people, I still find the model to be incredible. Its got to be one of the most extensively trained, tagged and coherent SD 1.5 finetunes out there, which doesn't even surprise me TBH.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by boppo1 »

slibhb wrote: post #20
mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

If you extend this policy to "consuming a video/image/text message," that would be dystopian. But this is about porn. Maybe it'll be a slippery slope but I doubt it. I wouldn't vote for this policy but I get it. Lots of people don't want kids watching porn. And it's not just social conservativism, people across the political spectrum think porn is addictive, psychologically damaging, and leads to sexual dysfunction.

If I like BDSM, and that is cataloged, I can easily see that being leveraged against me.

We should focus on tools and systems that empower parents to guide their childrens' internet experience. Maybe a token of some sort sites can use to self identify as 18+ so parents can set up strong filters.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by estarkio »

ethanbond wrote: post #28
slibhb wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you extend this policy to "consuming a video/image/text message," that would be dystopian. But this is about porn. Maybe it'll be a slippery slope but I doubt it. I wouldn't vote for this policy but I get it. Lots of people don't want kids watching porn. And it's not just social conservativism, people across the political spectrum think porn is addictive, psychologically damaging, and leads to sexual dysfunction.

I mean a town in Tennessee recently outlawed homosexuality in public. I can easily see this being applied to anything with LGBT material, sexual or not. That said, yeah, I get the motivation. I put this in a similar category as the regulatory response to Airbnb/Ubers of the world: it seems like a better outcome may have been possible if the companies didn’t totally and flagrantly shirk their social obligations to beg…

Now I want someone to start The Church of Jesus Christ, Drag Queen, and say that reading the gospel to children is the Lord's calling and a religious requirement.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

While I strongly disagree with this NC law, and others, your analogy is a bad one.

As a society I think we've accepted that some things (cigarettes, alcohol, sex, etc.) should be restricted from children. That's a far cry from requiring ID every time I go to the grocery store. But, as long as I've been alive, you have had to show ID to purchase alcohol, and the sky hasn't fallen.

Again, I think these types of laws are particularly poorly thought out, but I don't buy the "slippery slope into dystopia" arguments, and I think there are better arguments against it.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by cryptonector »

mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

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