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Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by nephyrin »

KyleGospo wrote: post #25
xvector wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it not the default? Compatibility issues with Windows games somehow?

I can only speculate Valve's reasoning, but there are a very select few games that require actual case folding and not the simulated case folding that wine offers. I know of literally only one.

SteamOS dev here - lack of case folding is one (but solvable, we supported development on native case folding for ext4), but general stability issues are the main concern. Our testing with btrfs has not been promising for deploying it in a zero-maintenance manner to many users and finnicky SD cards and have it Just Work, but we're keeping an eye on things and weighing where we could contribute.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by jeroenhd »

johnchristopher wrote: post #14

Oooh, looks cool ! I was just googling for something like "pc with steamdeck like specs" because I don't need the portability, I can't stand fan noise but I'd like Steam's ease of use. Now there is a path to a "normal"/quiet/dedicated PC to easily run games. But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck ? Also: > - Comes with patches from SteamO…

I use BTRFS with compression because my SD card is old (like, a decade old) and slow. (De)ompressing the assets takes a bit of CPU time but the slow I/O is noticeably faster because of it.

Deduplication can be useful if you store the Proton/Wine runtimes on the same disk. Different games may need different runtimes, the latest version isn't always the best, and a Wine environment without any games inside of it can take up a couple hundred megabytes just for DLLs and other common dependencies. Deduplicating can save a chunk of wasted storage, although with current flash storage prices that's probably not worth worrying about in practice.

Some people like the checksumming but IMO that's not all that useful without ECC memory.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by janice1999 »

KyleGospo wrote: post #24
janice1999 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say "we" do you mean other members of the Fedora community? Do any of you work at RedHat? Just wondering how you got a complex project like this up and running.

"We" is myself and two others that call ourselves maintainers, and the group at Universal Blue who brought us into their circle and shared knowledge. My personal repo at https://GitHub.com/KyleGospo/Bazzite is a time capsule of the project at it's beginning when it was only me. Universal blue has a ton of different people contributing to it, but there's no corporate backing there either.

Thanks for the info. Looks really interesting.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by ParetoOptimal »

freedomben wrote: post #18

Glad to see this finally up here. I posted it a couple weeks ago and was shocked that I hadn't heard of it sooner. I expected it to rocket to the top, but instead it just languished ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38642298 ). I've been blown away by Bazzite. I haven't yet (so far at least) run into any downsides of being on Bazzite instead of SteamOS, yet have had numerous upsides. I've wanted my Decks to be o…

I also have my steam deck on my tailnet via `services.tailscale.enable = true` on NixOS.

I might have to do a comparison of NixOS and bazzite since bazzite has me curious.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by ParetoOptimal »

KyleGospo wrote: post #12
evolve2k wrote: post #4

What’s the motivation for the creators of this? And who’s backing it? Doesn’t feel like a weekend hobby project but rather a strategic open source play of some sort. Maybe something Nvidia related?

Hi, I'm the original creator of this project. I'm happy to say the motivation is purely organic, we've no backing and have never received donations of any kind, project is totally out of pocket. Originally I wanted something akin to SteamOS that allowed packages to be installed and maintained through updates, and knew Fedora could offer that after using Silverblue for about a year, and it just kept evolving and growi…

Do you know of NixOS and jovian NixOS? Did you consider either of those?

I may compare them in detail in the future, any thoughts on how they compare?

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by gclawes »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #15
curt15 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are OCI images content-addressed?

What does content-addressed mean?

The identifier for the content (image layers + manifest) is the hash of the content, and the has serves as an "address", the registry repo + tag is basically a pointer to a hash.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by dicknuckle »

freetonik wrote: post #10

Slightly related, but just today I discovered this SteamOS redistribution for generic machines (as long as they don’t have Nvidia graphics): https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso

https://chimeraos.org/ I've been using this one, it updates the system atomically.
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