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The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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Reminds me how Amazon is fundamentally a logistics company. Their merchandising is basically non-existent. Pretty much indestinguishable from AliExpress + fast shipping.

Isn't Amazon more of a cloud hosting (AWS) company, with some logistics + retail front end on the side?

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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Electricity will kill you . For the love of god, do not buy any line-voltage electrical equipment/devices from Amazon. I wouldn’t even buy 12v/24v/48v electrical parts from Amazon. It is not worth the risk of a house fire, no matter how much money you save. I don’t care if it claims to be ETL and UL listed, buy it elsewhere. Amazon’s supply chain cannot be trusted when life safety is a factor. Please buy electrical m…

There are a couple of categories of stuff that you should probably just never risk buying on Amazon: As you say, anything that plugs into AC mains >= 120V. Anything that, were it to malfunction could cause a home fire or plumbing flood. Anything that could lead to injury or death were it to fail (like car or boat parts, safety equipment). Anything that your family or pets eat. Anything mission critical that you depen…

> any other ideas?

Anything medical. There was some talk of Amazon getting into (legal) drug supply, which could go very poorly.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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Amazon has turned into "Aliexpress but more expensive and faster". Look up almost anything on Amazon and the results will be a made-up brand attached to a trashy product which costs 1/10 the price directly from China.

Unless I'm specifically looking for cheap Chinese crap where quality doesn't really matter (e.g., clothes hangers), Amazon's main use to me is to price-match at brick-and-mortar stores if the online price is miraculously lower than in physical retail.

Prime shipping hasn't been worth it for years, and Amazon often has higher prices than at other retailers or direct from the manufacturer. Their business model is just extracting dollars from people who have been conditioned to default to Amazon as their first choice for shopping.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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post #4

Amazon has turned into "Aliexpress but more expensive and faster". Look up almost anything on Amazon and the results will be a made-up brand attached to a trashy product which costs 1/10 the price directly from China.

Wasn't this always the case, but is it now more apparent because we can find the same product on AliExpress?

At one point most of their items were from brands that cared about their reputation - the manufacturer and the third-party seller. It took a few years for the third-party seller program to become a laundering program for no-name low-quality goods.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, wouldn't want to buy anything on Amazon that I haven't thoroughly researched prior to visiting Amazon. Their search algorithm is worse than useless, it's predatory. Much better to buy directly from a reputable store if it's expensive/important.

Even something you research is not guaranteed to match your order due to comingling. I personally stopped using Aamzon altogether even if some things are okay, this company does not deserve my trust at all..

> comingling

That's one failure mode. Damaged returns resold as "new" is another.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

#36
This is quite terrible.

For reference twice rated current is usually supposed to make the automotive fuses blow in some seconds or less.

The worst thing is that Amazon is threatening to pull Home Depot et al. down with them in the race to the bottom, unless they are shut down hard. Quality control costs money and Amazon got zero.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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For the record: Some of these are a bit over-the-top, and Amazon is trash for anything safety-related, but for the record, virtually all fuses have a pretty significant margin before they blow. The risk here is very limited: - A 2A fuse needs to conduct 2A, no matter ambient temperature, manufacturing variation, age, etc. - 95+% of the time, what you're protecting from isn't a minor overload condition but a short. Th…

> 95+% of the time, what you're protecting from isn't a minor overload condition but a short.

But these fuses aren’t labeled “fuses that will blow when there’s a sorry but not when there’s an overload condition”, they’re labeled simply as “fuses”, which should blow over their rated limit, full stop.

It violates separation of concerns if I have to think not only about the fuse itself but also the rest of the system that it’s plugged into.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

#38

There's a reason retailers have buyers who are experts in their domains and try to buy the best products optimizing for quality/reliability/price. I much prefer to buy things from stores like Target and Lowes now, because I can't rely on any reviews on Amazon anymore. The reviews are all fake.

But this is not true. Work through the screens to get to search mode "all critical reviews", ordered by time.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

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Amazon is a gamble. Buying (and returning) is very convenient. But the goods are sometimes not very good quality. I wouldn’t buy food or critical installation parts from there. Some weird brands are totally fine for consumables. Others are obvious scam and can be returned. I see a trend, that consumer must think more and more what and where to buy. Analyze sellers, look for their addresses in the map. Even search for…

Returning isn't even convenient these days. I've been in the process of moving away from streaming services toward physical media, and Amazon is often the only place that carries certain things on disc. Unfortunately, the failure rate is pretty high. Trying to return some DVDs to Amazon is like pulling teeth. Either you have to drive across town to a Whole Foods to drop off the package, or you have to pay $10 to return a $15 DVD and then you have to make sure you are around at whatever time the UPS driver shows up to pick up your return. They won't even give you the address so that you can ship a return yourself, or allow you to print the label so you can leave it on your porch.

It's so painful at this point I've just started building in a 30% markup in the price mentally to account for things I'm going to have to buy an extra copy of. Returning things isn't worth the hassle it except for with very expensive boxed sets.

As a "bonus" amazon has also removed my reviews on things that I've had a particularly high error rate with, since the poor quality is apparently not relevant to the thing they are selling.

Re: The Downfall of Amazon: Top Ranking Electrical Fuses Show Dangerous Results [video]

#40

I am an empathetic fellow. I understand that people are under cost and time pressure. But if you buy a fuse set on Amazon to save $10 off what a fuse assortment kit costs on Digikey, you are getting exactly what you paid for. The signs are obvious: a nonsensical name like HOODOOVOOKOO, sold by BLXXYUSA a seller specializing in children's socks and fuses, quantity listed in "pieces", an obviously cheap plastic box, a…

> You cannot be angry at them for giving you exactly what you want. What they want and were sold is a working fuse... which this is not. If I starting calling myself a medical doctor and advertising cheap surgery I would hope someone would try to stop me. You can't claim to be empathetic and expect everyone to be a domain expert in absolutely everything to avoid getting poisoned, burned or killed by sellers lying to…

You do not need to be a domain expert to understand that fuses sold with a per-unit cost of 4¢ are barely better than paper clips in a plastic housing.

Paper clips sold on Amazon cost 1.3¢ each. https://a.co/d/28pCOQ2

Edit: and I am unassailably certain that those paper clips are really bad paper clips.

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