Wondeful, that means that you can use binary for most part of the system and just rebuild the parts you want to customize. A great saving of compile time !
Gentoo goes Binary
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#32Does that mean they're building the package about 2 times and maybe even more if systemd support needs to be there? As far as I know, Gentoo supports musl/glibc and could support either systemd or openrc... (some packages link against systemd for some functionality)
They do mention that they support 3 different profiles - openrc, gnome/systemd and plasma/systemd. Nothing mentioned about glibc/musl split. But they seem to be aiming only for a reasonable coverage. So I'd speculate that only glibc is targeted.
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#34I remember Gentoo taking more than a full day to compile on my computer back then. It did teach me a lot though, will always have a soft spot for it.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
4chan meme, or perhaps because it's Linux from scratch for dummies.
I was never a gentoo user (I installed once, like I did for basically any distro back then), but I wouldn't knock the sort of "apparently-unproductive tinkering" that Gentoo epitomizes. Like building the umpteenth blog engine, or yet another Todo manager in $language_du_jour, that's how we learn.
I'm not calling it unproductive, it's useful to learn the OS and how things work. It taught me all I need is debian.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The amount of packages for amd64 in Gb has doubled from 10Gb to 20Gb since November, so I guess your assertion is false. https://www.akhuettel.de/~huettel/plots/mirrors/binpackages-...
The functionality in portage was there since forever the standard packages (think of it like a standard ubuntu install) were there for forever. They only branched out and offer more binary packages. Which is absolutely great but not a new feature... The headline is still misleading.
from the gentoo page
> we’re now also offering binary packages for download and direct installation! For most architectures, this is limited to the core system and weekly updates - not so for amd64 and arm64 however. There we’ve got a stunning >20 GByte of packages on our mirrors, from LibreOffice to KDE Plasma and from Gnome to Docker. Gentoo stable, updated daily. Enjoy! And read on for more details!
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The functionality in portage was there since forever the standard packages (think of it like a standard ubuntu install) were there for forever. They only branched out and offer more binary packages. Which is absolutely great but not a new feature... The headline is still misleading.
from the gentoo page > we’re now also offering binary packages for download and direct installation! For most architectures, this is limited to the core system and weekly updates - not so for amd64 and arm64 however. There we’ve got a stunning >20 GByte of packages on our mirrors, from LibreOffice to KDE Plasma and from Gnome to Docker. Gentoo stable, updated daily. Enjoy! And read on for more details!
>> Gentoo Linux Goes Binary.
they did decades ago.
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#38Gentoo's big attraction for me is Portage. It goes beyond just providing a build environment and dependency management. Ebuilds (Gentoo packages) are supported by great tooling and Eclasses that handle a lot of corner cases in builds. Developing Ebuilds feel like doing a real software project, and is great for anyone who wants to experiment with packages that are not in the official repository. Coincidentally, I just…
For me this is great news for less powerful devices I use that I don't feel like setting up a binrepo for (especially when it involves cross-compilation), but still want to reuse my portage config and custom ebuilds for.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
4chan meme, or perhaps because it's Linux from scratch for dummies.
I think this is unfair - Arch is also meme'd by linux enthusiasts and 4chan. Additionally, Gentoo is the largest distro with the source-based package manager USP. I suppose you could take issue with that approach for reasons like the systemd maintainer does where he claims it wastes CPU-cycles and time. Personally I disagree with that assessment since reproducible builds are a vital part of FOSS.
Fun fact is that Gentoo is the most normie distro. ChromeOS is based on Gentoo and all have coreboot. I'm not disparaging it as much as seeing it as a similar learning tool.
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