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Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by macspoofing »

duped wrote: post #8
j16sdiz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article,"Transitioning Mozilla away from Firefox." is the current organisation goal. She have done her job great. why was it a goal, I have bo idea

Not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, but their mission isn't to create a browser. It's to "ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all." (1) Given that Firefox has kinda lost the browser war it seems obvious that they should be focusing efforts on other things that further that mission besides dumping money into a browser a tiny slice of people want to use. (1) https://www.mozilla.o…

>Not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, but their mission isn't to create a browser. It's to "ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all." (1)

Yes .. and that is the core problem. Their relevance (and income) only comes from Firefox and its market share. But for some reason, they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge this. The income they generated from Firefox, should have been re-invested in Firefox. They should have been organized as an engineering company at the forefront of web technologies.

>Given that Firefox has kinda lost the browser war it seems obvious that they should be focusing efforts on other things that further that mission besides dumping money into a browser a tiny slice of people want to use.

That is their strategy. Right now, Firefox is still the only thing that gives them any sort of relevance.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by PedroBatista »

vjulian wrote: post #18

Honest question: I use (and like) Firefox and rely on many of its features including password vault. However, should I be looking elsewhere? Any suggestions? (I avoid Google Chrome.)

Firefox will continue to survive for a long time, at least Mozilla has the money to do so for many many years. I would not panic, also because there is no other viable alternative to Chrome or Chrome/Webkit based browsers other than Firefox that I know of.

And Firefox is actually a very good browser and better than Chrome in some aspects.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by phpisthebest »

anonymousab wrote: post #16
j16sdiz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article,"Transitioning Mozilla away from Firefox." is the current organisation goal. She have done her job great. why was it a goal, I have bo idea

They likely view the idea off competing with Chrome - a key chess piece of the company keeping Mozilla around merely as a pet to ward of regulators - as impossible if not counterproductive to their mid-term survival at this point. Which is to say, at some point they might become annoying enough for Google to not want to pay them anymore, and then Mozilla would cease to exist shortly thereafter. So with that in mind,…

No absolutely not...

That would be the worst thing for the web. Blink is objectively bad in the first place, and we need more than just chromiumum skins in the market.

I wish they would finish and move to Servo.

I wish Brave or some of the other Chromium Skins would become Firefox based.

Everyone consolidating down to Blink and Chromium is about the worst thing that could happen to anyone that desires an open Web

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by mewse-hn »

vjulian wrote: post #18

Honest question: I use (and like) Firefox and rely on many of its features including password vault. However, should I be looking elsewhere? Any suggestions? (I avoid Google Chrome.)

I was getting uncomfortable with how I was tied into google chrome so I started storing my passwords in keepass.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by macspoofing »

LightHugger wrote: post #23
baal80spam wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> their mission isn't to create a browser Aaaand that's why I don't use Firefox.

As long as you use something better, that isnt chrome. Chrome blatant spyware that scans your whole pc ever since google had the bright idea of sneaking an "antivirus" into chrome and enabling it by default. Firefox is better that chrome, but there's lots better than firefox.

>As long as you use something better, that isnt chrome.

This is why it is critical to have a meaningful alternative. Developers and end-users are pragmatic - all things being equal they will choose privacy and openness, but not at the expense of performance and capabilities.

This is why it is so perplexing seeing Mozilla just focus on everything except for the one thing that gives them relevance and is actually important.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by NegativeLatency »

vjulian wrote: post #18

Honest question: I use (and like) Firefox and rely on many of its features including password vault. However, should I be looking elsewhere? Any suggestions? (I avoid Google Chrome.)

Safari is fine (if you have a Mac), it’s great on battery life and I actually use it for web dev.

If you’re happy with Firefox I’d say just keep using it.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by laweijfmvo »

username1228023 wrote: post #25
sydbarrett74 wrote: post #2

Mitchell Baker needs to go. I hold her responsible for much of Firefox's slide in use over the years. She keeps pulling in a larger and larger salary for doing less and less.

I've been critical of Mozilla for a long time, and Mitchell has not been a good leader for the last ~10 years or so. Having said that, Mitchell was instrumental to several very important things, not all of them in the distant past. She also went years taking annual salary lower than she probably should have been taking. It frankly wouldn't be unreasonable to grant her lifetime emeritus status that comes with a no-str…

> She also went years taking annual salary lower than she probably should have been taking. It frankly wouldn't be unreasonable to grant her lifetime emeritus status that comes with a no-strings-attached $1–2 million annual salary to sit on her hands and do nothing.

Sorry, what? She was underpaid for a few years, so should get a couple mil forever now? Can you at least list out the "several important things?"

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