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#32Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.
From a few people already working in the US for years getting green cards?
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A historic year of tech layoffs? Does that mean most tech layoffs ever? Or just that layoffs occurred when they didn’t in the last few years?
> does that mean most tech layoffs ever
why would it mean that?
historic= famous or important in history, or potentially so.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not any more than other patent applicants. Currently all the layers in patent application process is incentivized to ignore quality. 1. Large companies pay a bonus for every patent applied and bigger one for approval. 2. Patent lawyers are paid for filed patents. 3. Patent office makes money on each patent. They view the review process as a cost center and optimize it for fast approval.
> Currently all the layers in patent application process is incentivized to ignore quality. Not just "incentivized to ignore quality", they aren't duty-bound to consider quality at all. The PTO evaluates applications for novelty, not quality. The three main relevant parts of the US Code are: 35 USC Sec. 101: is it patentable? (i.e., it must be a process, machine, process, or manufactured good. It can't be something l…
They're barely qualified to address novelty and get it wrong often, so I can't even imagine the types of things that would have been denied had they tried to evaluate the quality as well.
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#37Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.
My employer cannot hire H1Bs. They are prohibited by law. All employees must be US citizens.
They pay extremely competitive rates. They are the reason for and a source of complaints regarding gentrification in my area.
edit: as an example the starting rate for high school work-study and college interns is the hourly equivalent of $78k/yr plus the same benefits as full-time employees from the second they show up.
The work environment is spectacular. There is no work from home because that is a practical impossibility so the work-life balance is carefully considered and benefits are outstanding. There are no after-hours tasks (there can't be, really).
You show up, work 9-5 in a relaxed environment, go home, cash your fat check, and enjoy travel and hobbies.
From IPC soldering-certified technicians to senior RF scientists and everything in between we cannot find enough workers for the amount of work we have.
For sexy startups trying to use sexy AI to steal user data in order to serve them sexy ads yes, maybe the market is saturated.
For hard-STEM fields my experience has been that there are too few people who take their linear algebra classes seriously.
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#38would love to see the breakdown by STEM field. I'm guessing most are going toward computer programming/support roles, but I could be wrong
Having worked in STEM fields other than IT, I can assure you it is not the only one affected here.
Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers
#39Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.
Ah yes, the last 30 odd years of increasing immigration has exerted tremendous downward pressure on US tech salaries. And countries in Europe that have not seen as much Tech immigration have seen huge boosts in Tech salaries. Comparable Europeans earn almost 1/3 - 1/2 what their American counterparts do today!
But really, it’s much easier to enter the EU. You have dozens of countries with their own rules so there are many more options. Plus immigration rules tend to be much easier than the US with its famously strict legal immigration with low caps.
Indeed, this balance between supply and demand is exactly what keeps US tech salaries high. Our dynamic economy creates a lot of tech roles while our restrictive immigration limits high skill immigrants from filling those roles, raising salaries.
Tech companies have been lobbying unsuccessfully for years to raise or eliminate the h-1b cap, which would absolutely cut salaries. That’s why they are lobbying for it, to reduce their labor costs.
Personally I think this is all going to be moot anyway. With software development becoming a mostly remote role after the pandemic, I’ve seen a lot less barrier over the past few years to hiring offshore teams. My own small division of 100 people has offshore teams in 3 countries.
Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers
#40There's no changes that affect the real bottleneck: the annual quota on green cards and the per-country limits of 7% or children aging out. Those all require Congressional action and that's just not going to happen in the current political environment [1]. Here's my take: you get a work visa for 3-5 years that's tied to your employer and allows you to freely leave and re-enter the US. Believe it or not, we still have…
Won't this just dramatically shrink the number of initial work visas given out? Because you'll have to assume each one is now just a green card with extra steps.