That logic could be applied to all belligerents in the conflict, can you name a country that doesnt apply to?
Did FDR want to join WW2 to stay in power at home?
Yes, we never had to be involved. In fact, the holocaust started after we declated war, and we kept it a secret that we sunk a japanese submarine that was near Hawaii because it would have tipped off the forces there that they needed to be ready to defend themselves. Pearl harbor was allowed to happen to justify going to war, soldiers and sailors killed for what exactly?
You know how sometimes you find theres an simpler way of doing things? Sometimes its easier, or more scalable, it just takes creative thinking. Imagine for a moment a crazy idea, instead of sending a strike force to go turn people into mist, we try talking first? Its this weird phenomena, sometimes people dont rush into violence when they feel like their grievances are being taken seriously.
“The Houthis aren’t going to stop what they’re doing, until the Israeli offensive in Gaza concludes,” Gregory Brew, an analyst at the Eurasia Group, told Al Jazeera, “and even then they are likely to continue for some time after.” Their demands and intentions are quite clear and solely focused on Israeli-bound ships, although it does seem like this is giving them more leverage with respect to Yemen's agenda which has…
I'm just spitballing here, but the guys with the "God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam" flag may in my opinion have a more expansive agenda than what you're describing.
You know how sometimes you find theres an simpler way of doing things? Sometimes its easier, or more scalable, it just takes creative thinking. Imagine for a moment a crazy idea, instead of sending a strike force to go turn people into mist, we try talking first? Its this weird phenomena, sometimes people dont rush into violence when they feel like their grievances are being taken seriously.
Assuming people are peaceful and rational is unrealistic.
Right, we havent spent the last 30 years trying to summon khorn over there, they are clearly irrational evil people that we just need to kill.
Not really. My guess is that this will be resolved through a combination of re-routing, new players (friendly to the Persians/Houthis) who will take advantage, and a bit of higher prices or some delay. The two big regional players (Saudi Arabia, UAE) are ignoring this because they made their deals already.
Or the U.S. unloads cruise missiles on Houthi locations like last time and business returns to normal.
It baffles me that they still have a helicopter that's being actively used for piracy. Seems like that should be number one on the target list.
You know how sometimes you find theres an simpler way of doing things? Sometimes its easier, or more scalable, it just takes creative thinking. Imagine for a moment a crazy idea, instead of sending a strike force to go turn people into mist, we try talking first? Its this weird phenomena, sometimes people dont rush into violence when they feel like their grievances are being taken seriously.
People told them to stop. The Houthis don't want to stop and instead continue to attack others. Mist it is.
Right, telling them to stop, that addresses their greivances, you should be a diplomat.
The Houthis want conflict to remain in power domestically.
They're not really Houthis, they are followers of Hussein al-Houthi. I don't know why the Western media insists on giving them this name. Hussein al-Houthi was a Houthi, but most of his supporters are not. Would you call all Barak Obama supporters "Obamas"?
Not really. My guess is that this will be resolved through a combination of re-routing, new players (friendly to the Persians/Houthis) who will take advantage, and a bit of higher prices or some delay. The two big regional players (Saudi Arabia, UAE) are ignoring this because they made their deals already.
Or the U.S. unloads cruise missiles on Houthi locations like last time and business returns to normal.
Or maybe iran deduces that the US isnt capable of doing the same to them and makes this unimaginably worse.
They're not really Houthis, they are followers of Hussein al-Houthi. I don't know why the Western media insists on giving them this name. Hussein al-Houthi was a Houthi, but most of his supporters are not. Would you call all Barak Obama supporters "Obamas"?
> Would you call all Barak Obama supporters "Obamas"? If they engaged in a rebellion under his leadership/memory separately from the rest of the Democrats, we probably would.
Not really. My guess is that this will be resolved through a combination of re-routing, new players (friendly to the Persians/Houthis) who will take advantage, and a bit of higher prices or some delay. The two big regional players (Saudi Arabia, UAE) are ignoring this because they made their deals already.
Or the U.S. unloads cruise missiles on Houthi locations like last time and business returns to normal.
Assuming people are peaceful and rational is unrealistic.
Right, we havent spent the last 30 years trying to summon khorn over there, they are clearly irrational evil people that we just need to kill.
> they are clearly irrational evil people that we just need to kill
We don’t need to kill them. But it’s naive to think appeasement will work with folks calling for the destruction of an entire people.
I suppose if I’m going to complain about us having to learn this lesson time and again, I should learn that well-meaning but tragically-naïve people will keep trying it, time and again. (Appeasement isn’t always irrational [1]. But only if done for force conservation, not out of misguided humanitarianism.)