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Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Life in prison for non-violent crime clearly sounds like revenge and sour grapes. The big guys clearly don't appreciate having their insecurity being exposed this way (keep in mind none of these hacks required any significant technical skills), and too many people would lose face. Something had to be done, so here it is. The disparity of this punishment compared to what is usually given out for similar crimes (in the…

Conditional life sentence, he can be freed if docs clear him

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Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Seems reasonable to me. Glad there aren't any comments yet saying "oh gosh it was just a video game company, those are a scourge anyway on family morals!"

Not to me, it's a slippery slope. Want to give someone a life sentence? Cool, all you need to do is to stamp the autism label on them and put them in a secure hospital and convict them for a crime that would get like 5 years in prison.

The point is not the details (I'm obviously not a laywer or anything remotely related to that), the point is that it seems to be a slippery slope.

Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Stuff like this is why I’m glad Ken Kessey’s “one flew over the cuckoos nest” become popular and helped remove government mental hospitals from being a serious consideration in the USA. This kid needs to be cultivated, not institutionalized. (Edit: never mind, seems he IS a menace to society)

Did you miss the part about assaulting staff and property destruction. What about the part where he continued hacking after being busted the first time and released on bail. Its pretty clear that the kid poses a danger and doesn't understand that he needs to stop. This isn't a youthful prank/indiscretion that went too far. This kid was on trial for causing millions in damages, and then did it again while on trial. Ye…

Just because a company chooses to spend millions of dollars to "repair" damage does not mean that the damage itself should be valued the same. We are talking about companies with tens or hundreds of billions of dollars at their disposal. An executive could choose to spend $5 million on anything: that doesn't make the thing that valuable.

Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Life in prison for non-violent crime clearly sounds like revenge and sour grapes. The big guys clearly don't appreciate having their insecurity being exposed this way (keep in mind none of these hacks required any significant technical skills), and too many people would lose face. Something had to be done, so here it is. The disparity of this punishment compared to what is usually given out for similar crimes (in the…

I don't think this is fair. Another underage person found guilty of the same hacks got an 18-month rehabilitation order. This basically means severe restrictions on going out and computer use together with involvement and monitoring by social workers. This seems perfectly appropriate. They're not having decades of their life taken away from them, and they're not locked up with hardened criminals who would either victimise them or teach them to be much worse.

The indefinite order is because the kid committed multiple assaults and other violent acts while under observation in a mental hospital. Doctors don't believe he can be released in the foreseeable future.

If you were arrested for unpaid parking tickets and then demonstrated threatening, violent and out-of-control behaviour while in police custody, then in a secure unit, you might get a similar indefinite order.

Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Did anyone here read TFA? He was apparently shown to be a member of a cyber "gang", and expressed zero remorse. In this case, a judge basically has to do something. > A mental health assessment used as part of the sentencing hearing said he "continued to express the intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible. He is highly motivated." The guy was already on bail for another hack: > The jury was told that while…

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Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Oh shit, okay his sentence makes sense. Somehow I missed this part of the article.

Are you being facetious? Stalking and harassment alone wouldn't justify a life sentence.

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> The jury was told that while he was on bail for hacking Nvidia and BT/EE and in police protection at a Travelodge hotel, he continued hacking and carried out his most infamous hack. >Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone. This sounds too fantastical to be true. This guy is obviously brilliant, disa…

Yea, too bad Aaron Schwarz squandered his.

It's fucked up what they did to him publicly.

Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Seems reasonable to me. Glad there aren't any comments yet saying "oh gosh it was just a video game company, those are a scourge anyway on family morals!"

Not to me, it's a slippery slope. Want to give someone a life sentence? Cool, all you need to do is to stamp the autism label on them and put them in a secure hospital and convict them for a crime that would get like 5 years in prison. The point is not the details (I'm obviously not a laywer or anything remotely related to that), the point is that it seems to be a slippery slope.

Did you read the article?
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