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Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
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Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#32Is this a colour blindness issue? Check out that last photo. Isn’t that red/green?
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#33An autonomous driving system is either good enough to drive on our roads without supervision — or it's not. If it is good enough, it shouldn't matter whether others know if the driver isn't human. Any unsupervised driving system is likely to be around two orders of magnitude safer than a human driver.[0] So effectively they're special lights to tell others that a car is extremely safe. This will backfire horribly. Wh…
It’s literally there so cops etc don’t pull you over for watching a movie while driving.
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#34Surprised to learn it's not tesla or comma with the first level 3 driving system approved for sale in the US. Would never have guessed Mercedes would beat them to it.
It's tough when you dogmatically refuse to use lidar! For Elmo, since the human eye doesn't have lidar, camera arrays are sufficient to achieve L3
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#35Surprised to learn it's not tesla or comma with the first level 3 driving system approved for sale in the US. Would never have guessed Mercedes would beat them to it.
Given Tesla's haphazard approach, even if they had a level 3 driving system available, they probably would just launch it without any approval.
Level 3 means that the driver is not at fault if something happens when the system is on.
Tesla could conceivably launch a level 3 system without approval by taking full responsibility for any accident that happens when the system is running even when the driver is inattentive. Even Tesla is not crazy enough to do that.
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#36I think this idea makes some sense, in a mixed-traffic world where some vehicles are autonomous and others are not, some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them. Additional situational information, provided it is not overly intrusive or overwhelming is generally beneficial. As for the colour, clearly Mercedes requested Turquoise for brand reasons. I wonder if th…
> some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them I'm genuinely curious - what are you thinking when you say this? I don't know what I'd do with that information. It shouldn't make me drive differently - e.g. not be aggressive to see if I can invoke reaction(s) in the autonomous system, and I should already be driving w/ due care.
Human drivers and autonomous systems drive differently. So if you’re trying to predict how the car will behave in order to e.g. anticipate possible hazards (which I think we all do when driving?) then you may wish to take it account whether it’s being autonomously driven or not.
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#37Surprised to learn it's not tesla or comma with the first level 3 driving system approved for sale in the US. Would never have guessed Mercedes would beat them to it.
It's tough when you dogmatically refuse to use lidar! For Elmo, since the human eye doesn't have lidar, camera arrays are sufficient to achieve L3
Semi-related but how do lidar-based systems handle nearby cars that have lidar jammers installed?
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#38Surprised to learn it's not tesla or comma with the first level 3 driving system approved for sale in the US. Would never have guessed Mercedes would beat them to it.
It’s not too surprising given the very specific conditions Mercedes runs in.
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