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Re: I Can't Sleep

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Post by Zetobal »

pbiggar wrote: post #30
Zetobal wrote: post #21

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The problem is that people like you who are overthrown by their own emotions talk about objectivity. The only thing you champion with a view like yours is moral relativism.

Of course we're biased. 20,000 people have been killed by indescrimimate bombing. I would hope that makes you biased too

As long as the only solution is a one sided ceasefire there is no solution. That's what you people have to understand. You can be biased as much as you want to just pondering on one solution doesn't help anyone. The people in the region should understand that from experience.

Re: I Can't Sleep

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pbiggar wrote: post #25
Zetobal wrote: post #22

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Your previous blog posts are still available for everyone to read. To say you don't normally write emotionally loaded is obviously wrong.

Which one are you thinking? It feels to me this was the first post I've written with real emotion.

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Re: I Can't Sleep

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Post by basilgohar »

Zetobal wrote: post #8
pbiggar wrote: post #6

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This is classic redirection tactics, exactly as Lee Fang exposed last week [1]. You talk about those wars, I'll support you. I'll talk about this one [1] https://www.leefang.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-information

No it's not tell me why you can't sleep when 18600 people get killed but you can sleep like a baby when you know there is a lot more suffering in places without the limelight. You writing about Palestine but not other conflicts says more about you than you want to admit. Hybris.

It's really bizarre that to speak out against any atrocity you must first speak out about all other atrocities of equal or greater measure.

The funny thing is, the illegal occupation and oppression of Palestine and Palestinians is approaching a century, millions have been permanently displaced over generations, and Israel continues to illegally steal land that is internationally recognized as illegally occupied. The only "peace" deals that Israel has ever offered were ones that cemented and legalized their theft of the majority of Palestine's original land.

So, yeah, when you put it that way, the Palestinian cause against the Zionists in Israel is really close to being, if not the most, one of the most outrageous perpetual atrocities of our time.

Re: I Can't Sleep

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Post by nashadelic »

Zetobal wrote: post #31
pbiggar wrote: post #30

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Of course we're biased. 20,000 people have been killed by indescrimimate bombing. I would hope that makes you biased too

As long as the only solution is a one sided ceasefire there is no solution. That's what you people have to understand. You can be biased as much as you want to just pondering on one solution doesn't help anyone. The people in the region should understand that from experience.

A ceasefire is no solution and no one is calling it that. It’s a moral imperative that anyone with a shred of humanity can support given all key observers, including Biden, has called the Likud campaign indiscriminate bombing.

The bombing is not going to do anything. Hamas is not a regular army, there are 30k+ Hamas, when IDF tells people to clear an area, do you not think the Hamas clears it as well? Then what will all this bombing achieve?

Hamas will perform these attacks again, so long as Israel keeps closing millions of people in a box, in the world’s largest starvation camp, this cycle will come continue.

The only rational solution is a two state solution. Right now, Israel is pushing more people into Hamas, you can’t kill people’s children with your bombs and then even attempt to shift responsibility.

With nearly 20,000 people killed, Israel conducts an Oct 7, every 4 days, does so with impunity and cruelty.

Re: I Can't Sleep

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pbiggar wrote: post #7
Zetobal wrote: post #3

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To add to this: the two sides in the war are supposedly Israel and Hamas. Can we not agree that either side killing civilians is wrong?

You would be surprised how controversial this is. Try saying all civilians should be protected, or should have equal rights. The racist will come and tell you how one side is more important than the other to have the same rights to life, dignity and safety.
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