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Please, expose your RSS

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Re: Please, expose your RSS

#31
A lot of RSS/Atom is left unexposed for two key reasons:

1) Google Reader and friends disappeared, and 2) Browsers stopped supporting RSS feeds natively, including discovery of a feed.

Put the functionality back in browsers where it belongs, it could at least be used to find feeds and then you can use newsbeuter or something similar to subscribe with.

Re: Please, expose your RSS

#32

RSS doesn’t move the needle. Only a super tiny, insignificant number of people care about RSS. Social aggregators like HN and Reddit won. RSS lost. I have a blog and try my best to maintain the RSS feed. But if we’re being honest it’s a waste of time. I stopped using RSS readers when half my subs required me to open a browser tab to go to the actual website to view the actual content. Webcomics were particularly anno…

> The ideal RSS feed has no ads which means no revenue for people working hard to create interesting things I want to read! I don't see a problem with this at all, the best things on the internet are free and open source. Everyone gets content for free and the author gets more views everybody wins.

And what quality content are you creating to contribute to this?

Re: Please, expose your RSS

#33

RSS doesn’t move the needle. Only a super tiny, insignificant number of people care about RSS. Social aggregators like HN and Reddit won. RSS lost. I have a blog and try my best to maintain the RSS feed. But if we’re being honest it’s a waste of time. I stopped using RSS readers when half my subs required me to open a browser tab to go to the actual website to view the actual content. Webcomics were particularly anno…

> The ideal RSS feed has no ads which means no revenue for people working hard to create interesting things I want to read! I don't see a problem with this at all, the best things on the internet are free and open source. Everyone gets content for free and the author gets more views everybody wins.

As an independent content creator I just called my rental agency and asked them if they would take ‘views’ as partial payment and I can confirm that they will not.

Bummer!

Re: Please, expose your RSS

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sometimes people put content in the feed. Sometimes it's a link. This is the reason I gave up on trying to use RSS. If I'm going to have to follow a link anyway, I'll just save myself the time and go directly to the websites I want to read.

RSS solves the problem that web portals with updating content are web pages that you have to grok in their rendered form. RSS allows such a web page to offer a summary of the updating items in a more structured form that users can consume via a feed reader. The idea is that checking an Inbox-like reader dashboard with 7 feeds is less time consuming than separately going to 7 websites and scrolling around. RSS readers…

> if I have to click, I might as well just go directly to those websites and skip this HackerNews thing.

You accidentally arrived at the root of the anti-RSS rationale for many HN readers.

They don't want to actually go on the web. They want to participate in the comments section, where it's safe and sanitized; no paywalls, no 'sign up for my email list' popups, no analytics scripts, no strange site layouts.

They feel RSS should deliver exactly what they want: full-text article and images, nothing more.

Re: Please, expose your RSS

#37

A lot of RSS/Atom is left unexposed for two key reasons: 1) Google Reader and friends disappeared, and 2) Browsers stopped supporting RSS feeds natively, including discovery of a feed. Put the functionality back in browsers where it belongs, it could at least be used to find feeds and then you can use newsbeuter or something similar to subscribe with.

It was intentional. RSS is a way to sidestep advertising.

Guess who makes the most widely used browser today.

Re: Please, expose your RSS

#38

anyone out there generating fediverse feeds for their static site?

I don't think this would be practical for a static site. You still need to maintain a list of followers of your account somewhere and that needs to be dynamic if you want it to work the way people expect it to where they follow you from other instances.

Assuming you kept the @ list of accounts through some other means, if you had your webfinger setup with your public key, you could after creating new content to push up sign the publish events and push them to those followers.

I don't know of anyone doing this though.

Re: Please, expose your RSS

#40

RSS doesn’t move the needle. Only a super tiny, insignificant number of people care about RSS. Social aggregators like HN and Reddit won. RSS lost. I have a blog and try my best to maintain the RSS feed. But if we’re being honest it’s a waste of time. I stopped using RSS readers when half my subs required me to open a browser tab to go to the actual website to view the actual content. Webcomics were particularly anno…

RSS users are the Linux gamers of the podcast & blog world - tiny amount of people but all the problems in the world.
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