I don't believe that for a second, they haven't demonstrated anything yet
Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
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Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#32People go where the money is. It is capitalism. SV is where the money is so people are going to go there. Same as wall street before it. You want the best talent you pay the most money. With Europe paying so little compared to the US I don't know if Crotia or anywhere in europe will be a real tech hotbed.
People have different priorities than just money.
I for one would never move to SV even if I get 3 times the salary there.
There are a lot of other factors that make life great than just money.
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#33It's like California but with Roman emperor's palaces and Habsburg vacation homes strewn around the shoreline. Happy to see this trend and hope it continues.
We went to Pula on vacation years ago and it really is a fascinating mix of a bunch of different things. There's a large Roman arena, the city center looks like it could be anywhere in northern Italy that was under Venice, there are Hapsburg buildings and then construction from the communist part of their history... it's really an impressive mix.
Pula lol
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean it's much easier to get into Serbia, Montenegro or Bosnia than into Schengen == Croatia, Slovenia. But Serbia has people, and Montenegro has sea, while Bosnia has neither. So nothing much happens in Bosnia compared to other two. (edit: although it's somewhat cheaper and mountains are gorgeous)
That is relative to where you yourself are from.
Well, idk who has problems. They never exactly liked exalted islamists, or anyone with a bad attitude here, but otherwise people are pretty laid back.
Once I saw a guy from Turkie being given trouble at the airport, but that's about it. We shared a taxi after that.
Basically no one gives a fuck so long as you don't cause any trouble.
It's polako worldview you see.
https://www.montenegro.travel/7-culture-keys-for-understandi...
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#35The keyword is hidden. I'm a digital nomad who recently moved to Croatia, but my incentive was that I have roots here and speak the language. So I'm using one of their smaller cities as a home base while I travel around in other countries.
It's definitely a nice place to live cheaply if you can work remotely. And if you have a schengen citizenship it's even better.
I always say that it's on the fringes of the EU. Sort of like Romania. Cheap prices, lots of cash business, but still relatively safe and decent infrastructure. And of course close to other countries outside of schengen that are even cheaper.
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#36People go where the money is. It is capitalism. SV is where the money is so people are going to go there. Same as wall street before it. You want the best talent you pay the most money. With Europe paying so little compared to the US I don't know if Crotia or anywhere in europe will be a real tech hotbed.
People have different priorities than just money. I for one would never move to SV even if I get 3 times the salary there. There are a lot of other factors that make life great than just money.
On aggregate people go were the money is. There are exceptions, but greed motivates a lot of smart ambitious people.
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you base this opinion on? Northern European countries consistently rank at the top of the world in ease of doing business https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ease_of_doing_business_index Some of them have more entrepreneurs per capita than USA. What you don’t have is the ability to attract a crazy amount of international capital to mega corporations like in California/Texas or some places in China. So it’s hard t…
To attract top tech talent you need to offer 200k per year at least. A salary like this in Western Europe pays 70% of taxes (UK is the most favorable one with "only" 50%)
Switzerland is better than the UK compensation-wise, see e.g. https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater... and https://ch.talent.com/en/tax-calculator?salary=200000&from=y....
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
To attract top tech talent you need to offer 200k per year at least. A salary like this in Western Europe pays 70% of taxes (UK is the most favorable one with "only" 50%)
Switzerland is better than the UK compensation-wise, see e.g. https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater... and https://ch.talent.com/en/tax-calculator?salary=200000&from=y... .
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Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#39As someone who has built and sold an original software startup in Serbia, and has followed the evolution of the local tech scene in the Balkans over the last decade pretty closely, the one thing the region absolutely needs more of is this kind of positive press. While there's been a fair bit written about the growth of the "IT Sector"[0] there, for the longest time that sector was mostly made up of outsourcers and bo…
Sure! But what you don't need is a band of locust like tech bros that play 'digital nomad', don't pay taxes and high tail it to the next hot spot as soon as they are bored (which usually doesn't take all that long). You don't build stability that way.
I absolutely agree, but that group of people is almost exclusively attracted by government policy rather than startup-up success stories. The key is structuring government policy in a way that encourages local innovation over tax migration (or rather, government wanting to do that in the first place).
Re: Croatia could be Europe's hidden tech haven in 2024
#40The keyword is hidden. I'm a digital nomad who recently moved to Croatia, but my incentive was that I have roots here and speak the language. So I'm using one of their smaller cities as a home base while I travel around in other countries. It's definitely a nice place to live cheaply if you can work remotely. And if you have a schengen citizenship it's even better. I always say that it's on the fringes of the EU. Sor…
Since you lived in other places, can you comment/compare
on judicial system (level of corruption to get things approve, to have contract-related case litigated, medical malpractice issues, etc).
Also schools for children (cases of bullying, subpar level of STEM education, etc)?
Would be good to know of how these former Soviet block countries moved away from the almost universal corruption of basic institutions.