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DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

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"As always 100% of tips go to dashers" lol it was "as always" definitely remember reading that DD kept couriers tips...

Briefly, in 2019, until it made the news and the policy was changed so that drivers kept 100% of tips. There's more nuance than "DD was keeping tips", but plenty already written about that if you care to find the 2019 articles.

It’s not more nuanced they were skimming tips and got caught.

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living wage > consumer excess. Walk to the restaurant if you can't afford it.

The sick and disabled greatly value the advent of delivery apps. Not all who use them can reasonably "just pick it up yourself".

If the economic of delivery apps are unviable in the first place, then it's unlikely these services would exist without the funding of venture capitalists.

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They used tips (and may still use tips) to refund themselves for the minimum pay offered to dashers. The language was very deceptive, as giving a tip did not always increase the amount of money received by a dasher.

I thought they got the tip if they got more than the minimum pay in tips. Otherwise, DD used the tip to pay them. Meaning - if you somehow work one job and it takes an entire hour - and you got a $10 tip - you would only make $29, not $29 + $10x1 = $39. If you worked 1 hour and did 5 jobs - each with $10 tips - you would get paid $50 - not $29 + $10x5 = $79.

so my understanding is: don't tip on doordash after this. This means that the actual cost will be included in the work. I'm all for it. I hate tips, it is arbitrary and terrible.

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

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> With the changes required by NYC and the impact it will have on our system, we are pausing our Priority Access program, which gives Dashers who have high ratings priority on higher-paying offers. Since Dashers will earn a guaranteed minimum rate, the benefits offered by this program will not apply in NYC. The Top Dasher program is still available for qualified NYC Dashers. So they're guaranteeing higher pay for all…

Rising tide lifts all ships. Maybe we'd get better overall throughput and less saturation, though I see where you're coming from. The tips might help no?

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

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> Dashers who deliver in NYC will now earn at least $29.93 per hour of active time, nearly twice NYC’s $15 minimum wage for other workers. What’s a realistic amount of “active time” per hour? I’m assuming waiting for a job is not active time right? > These new regulations will force us to raise fees for orders in New York City. In order to better balance the impact of these new costs, we’re moving the option to tip i…

I did a quick search and it appears the law sets a minimum of about $20 per hour. So I guess DoorDash considers there to be about 40 minutes of "active time" per hour?

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

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> Dashers who deliver in NYC will now earn at least $29.93 per hour of active time, nearly twice NYC’s $15 minimum wage for other workers. What’s a realistic amount of “active time” per hour? I’m assuming waiting for a job is not active time right? > These new regulations will force us to raise fees for orders in New York City. In order to better balance the impact of these new costs, we’re moving the option to tip i…

In the UK with Uber Eats/Deliveroo you can select a tip when you order and then you can modify the tip up to a short time after the order. So you can just put no tip and then add one after delivery if it’s good service, or increase/decrease it. Is that not how it works with DoorDash?

It is, and apparently a common shitty thing the drivers experience is big tips that evaporate shortly after delivery.

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

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I read an interesting article about delivery drivers in NYC, specifically how much of the market was completely unregulated and illegal, and how people work within what functions as an underground economy: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/nyregion/migrant-delivery... The person doing the work often isn't the person registered with (e.g.) DoorDash. There's a whole economy of middlemen who resell straw buyers' creden…

This obviously happens with Uber also, and to some extent AirBnB. A lot of "super" hosts have someone completely different manage the listing and the host is really just a brand for the listing page at that point.

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living wage > consumer excess. Walk to the restaurant if you can't afford it.

The sick and disabled greatly value the advent of delivery apps. Not all who use them can reasonably "just pick it up yourself".

Someone at the top should be paying for that, not someone at the bottom

Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living wage > consumer excess. Walk to the restaurant if you can't afford it.

The sick and disabled greatly value the advent of delivery apps. Not all who use them can reasonably "just pick it up yourself".

What did they do before DoorDash?
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