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Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by SamBam »

Nevin1901 wrote: post #6

In my personal experience, tiling window managers only work when you have a lot of screen real estate. I tried using yabai on a 13 inch m2 air, but I ended up going back to my normal workflow of just alt tabbing between windows. Most apps don’t let you see enough content when they are tiled (because of gui elements such as sidebar etc). I do love the “focus on hover” feature of yabai though. I wish macOS had that nat…

I have the same problem.

I would love a tiling manager that allowed you to "full screen" the app into the tile of your choice.

By that, I mean the app would snap to the edges and lose all the chrome that is normal present. So your browser window, for instance, would lose the borders and url bar until you moused to the top of the tile.

Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by pmarreck »

xwowsersx wrote: post #2

Funny to see this at the top of HN after just having uninstalled Yabai. I used Yabai for about 6 weeks. I was so thrilled about having a proper tiling window manager for Mac. I invested a lot of time setting up skhd and fine-tuning my configuration for the most intuitive hotkeys. The problem ultimately, however, is that Yabai just doesn't work well enough. It'll regularly just lose track of windows altogether, which…

So basically, it's below the "Reliability*Utility" threshold (that's my term for the drastic dropoff in usefulness of a product/service/person when their reliability goes from 100% to 90% or lower) That's too bad. Maybe some unit tests (historically notoriously difficult to implement with GUI's) would help that dev.

Fleshing my concept out on a whim (since I am surprised I can't find another reference to this idea online!) with the help of ChatGPT (yes, it can do this now!), it looks like this equation would capture this concept:

U(r)=Umax ⋅e^(−k(100−r)^n)

where the total perceived Utility of a product/service/trusted person, given r=reliability percent (out of 100), is the maximum Utility times e to the (-k(100-r)^n), where k and n are tweakable based on the given product/service/person but which I want to assign values of 0.03 and 1.5 to, respectively, after plotting it.

Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by zdragnar »

onelesd wrote: post #16
xwowsersx wrote: post #2

Funny to see this at the top of HN after just having uninstalled Yabai. I used Yabai for about 6 weeks. I was so thrilled about having a proper tiling window manager for Mac. I invested a lot of time setting up skhd and fine-tuning my configuration for the most intuitive hotkeys. The problem ultimately, however, is that Yabai just doesn't work well enough. It'll regularly just lose track of windows altogether, which…

try hammerspoon. it isn't a tiling window manager, per se - it's more of an all-purpose desktop extension framework. it is fully customizable, has a well-documented API, and a large community. for window arrangement the hs.grid component is plenty for me. see an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRJ0477KFp8

Hammerspoon is literally the only thing I miss from leaving macOS.

If I ever have to go back, it'll be one of the first things I install again.

Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by hans-dampf »

poidos wrote: post #28

I like rectangle [0]. It fits my needs well enough without requiring disabling SIP. I especially like the “repeated key presses resize a window on the same side” feature, so I can get cycle the size of the window on the right side of the screen from 1/2->1/3->2/3 easily. I miss i3 sometimes and this ain’t an identical replacement but it gets the job done! Turns out I don’t move my windows all that often anyways. [0]:…

+1 for rectangle. was using spectacle before.

Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

poidos wrote: post #28

I like rectangle [0]. It fits my needs well enough without requiring disabling SIP. I especially like the “repeated key presses resize a window on the same side” feature, so I can get cycle the size of the window on the right side of the screen from 1/2->1/3->2/3 easily. I miss i3 sometimes and this ain’t an identical replacement but it gets the job done! Turns out I don’t move my windows all that often anyways. [0]:…

I also use it and the free version is plenty for my needs

Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by rwc »

CSSer wrote: post #18
xwowsersx wrote: post #2

Funny to see this at the top of HN after just having uninstalled Yabai. I used Yabai for about 6 weeks. I was so thrilled about having a proper tiling window manager for Mac. I invested a lot of time setting up skhd and fine-tuning my configuration for the most intuitive hotkeys. The problem ultimately, however, is that Yabai just doesn't work well enough. It'll regularly just lose track of windows altogether, which…

You might try Magnet. It's $10 on the mac app store. I've had zero issues with it, and it has some problems sorted that other tools don't or haven't always, namely correctly tiling across monitors. I used to use Rectangle, which is open source and frankly pretty good but at the time I was using it had some warts. macOS' window management seems to not be entirely transparent. I don't know all the details, but this is…

Actually, only $5.

Re: Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by CharlesW »

zacte wrote: post #39

Personally I've been so hooked to Raycast it's taken over my tiling manager needs too now.

I love Raycast for this too. For new and current Raycast users who haven't seen this capability, you have to enable the Window Management extension.

https://www.raycast.com/extensions/window-management

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