Prediction: if it does poorly people will call Musk a failure. If it does well people will call Musk a grifter. Either way people will be salty.
Cybertruck Launch
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Re: Cybertruck Launch
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla literally didn't realize the steel comes in coils and it naturally wants to warp back into that state. Massive panel gap problems. As usual. The only thing other car makers are learning is what a joke their design operation is.
Sure guy.
"We dug our own grave."
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#33I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.
The shoe-shaped things are that way because of crumple areas and pedestrian safety requirements (if the car hits a pedestrian, the bonnet is supposed to deform in order to minimize injuries). Contrast that to the Cybertruck, which...
> ...has received criticism from automotive safety groups, including the Australasian New Car Assessment Program and the Euro NCAP, for not conforming to standards for pedestrian and cyclist safety. In its December 2019 form, the truck would likely not be street-legal in either Australia or the European Union.
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#34Sure looks dangerous for pedestrians
No more or less than any other vehicle of similar weight.
This is not true - there are other factors at play. The angle of the bumper and where the bumper comes into contact with a human matters a lot - if it is below the human's center of mass, they are much less likely to be thrown under the vehicle and run over.
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing weighs 8000 to 10000 lb (3629 to 4536 kg). That’s shockingly heavy to move around 200lbs meat sacks.
Most EVs weigh about that much, to the point that some cities are considering amending "No trucks" signs to also say no EVs.
Do they? Model X weighs 5600lbs, here - https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-x - and that's bigger than any of the other, more popular, Teslas other than the Cybertruck.
Far cry from 8-10000. Or even 7-8000.
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#36I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.
> because every car people are buying looks identical It is almost like all other car makers know something Tesla does not. Maybe that big reflective flat surfaces are not safe for other drivers on sunny days.
They're not flat surfaces
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#37I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.
We are still in the motor cars looking like horse drawn carriages without the horses phase.
Electric cars don't need ICE engine layouts. It will take a few years until the designers realise they can have cars looking much different as they have more flexibility.
I also have hope this truck on the roads will get manufacturers doing something different. Concept cars at car shows should be where we should look first.
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#38I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.
While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…
It should be safer than a normal truck to pedestrians, since it doesn't have a broad front. With a car, the most common scenario is that car hits your legs and then you bounce on the hood. IOW, you don't get the full kinetic energy all at once. With a truck your body takes the full hit and you're more likely to fall under the tires.
With a lower, sharper front, the Cybertruck should behave more like a car than a full size truck.
But we really don't know yet. It's a real failure of regulators that we it's not a standard part of testing and that their aren't good standards in this area.
https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/vehicles-with-higher-more-v...
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
No more or less than any other vehicle of similar weight.
The thing weighs 8000 to 10000 lb (3629 to 4536 kg). That’s shockingly heavy to move around 200lbs meat sacks.
Citation needed. It’s expected to be around 7k lbs, over 8k would put it in the hummer EV territory.
Re: Cybertruck Launch
#40I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.
> because every car people are buying looks identical It is almost like all other car makers know something Tesla does not. Maybe that big reflective flat surfaces are not safe for other drivers on sunny days.
or that flat surfaces aren't very strong, require more material to be rigid and generally have bad aerodynamics.