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Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

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Re: Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

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This is an interesting result. It makes me wonder if you could grow a silicon ingot in this way. If so it would cut the cost of silicon solar cells significantly (a big chunk of their cost is the cost of the ingot, the ingot cost is a function of time to produce, producing them quickly would get more ingots per unit time from a given reactor). Another crystal structure that would be useful would be sapphire for thing…

> This is an interesting result. It makes me wonder if you could grow a silicon ingot in this way. No really. The way we grow silicon crystals is already very efficient and would not be improved by this sort of thing. We grow them by pulling a seed (in carefully controlled conditions, with a bit of twisting and other tweaks, but still), adding dissolutions steps would waste a lot of time. Besides, the defects they ge…

> The way we grow silicon crystals is already very efficient and would not be improved by this sort of thing. We grow them by pulling a seed

One interesting remaining unsolved problem is highly homogenous doping. Such silicon is needed for very high-current and high-voltage switching (like invertors on large wind turbines or HVDC power lines).

Creating it is so hard that we have to use FREAKING NUKES.

Seriously, a chunk of pure silicon is irradiated by neutrons in a reactor, transmuting some silicon atoms into phosphorus. It's apparently the only way to do it, which has always seemed wild to me.

Re: Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

#32
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

additional dissolution steps could definitely improve purity; i mean that's basically how zone melting does it

That’s melting, not dissolution. They came nowhere near the melting point of dolomite in the paper, AFAICT.

i admit to being pretty ignorant about thermochemistry

is there a relevant difference between crystals approaching equilibrium with a melt and crystals approaching equilibrium with a solution? because i had the impression that the mechanisms were the same and the line between these processes was actually a little bit fuzzy, what with things like hydrate crystals and aquo complexes

(i think you can't melt dolomite tho, at least near atmospheric pressure)

Re: Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

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This could potentially spell a long-term sustainability of most climbing crags in the world, which are on some form of limestone/dolimite or similar.

What happens is that thousands of climbing shoes with tiny bits of dirt eventually polish many holds, altering the routes and always for the worse since those really polished parts that everybody has to use become unreliable and everybody avoids them like plague.

I was thinking of spraying a thin film of some acid or similar to make surface rough again, but this eventually wears down the rock (although it could probably last few centuries till you run out of it).

Anybody knows about anything actually being done, instead of me just fantasizing?

Re: Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

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TIL that the mineral dolomite is not named after the Dolomite mountains in Italy, but the other way round, the mineral being named after the geologist who discovered it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9odat_Gratet_de_Dolomieu). Which of course begs the question of how the mountains were called before dolomite was discovered, apparently "pale mountains" ("monti pallidi").

Re: Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

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post #38

TIL that the mineral dolomite is not named after the Dolomite mountains in Italy, but the other way round, the mineral being named after the geologist who discovered it ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9odat_Gratet_de_Dolomieu ). Which of course begs the question of how the mountains were called before dolomite was discovered, apparently "pale mountains" ("monti pallidi").

Thank you! Honestly "monti pallidi" is... such a worse name :D

Re: Scientists succeed in growing dolomite in the lab

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post #38

TIL that the mineral dolomite is not named after the Dolomite mountains in Italy, but the other way round, the mineral being named after the geologist who discovered it ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9odat_Gratet_de_Dolomieu ). Which of course begs the question of how the mountains were called before dolomite was discovered, apparently "pale mountains" ("monti pallidi").

Thank you! Honestly "monti pallidi" is... such a worse name :D

As a non Italian it sounds better to me.
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