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Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

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Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#33

Never realised that Omegle had become a platform for the creeps. She sued for $22 million. I don't see anything heroic in that, despite her tragic circumstances. But I really wonder what the authorities where doing - if paedophiles were using the platform, sounds like it would have been easy to identify and trap them.

> Never realised that Omegle had become a platform for the creeps.

Everything can and potentially will be. Facebook, Discord, Ome.tv, Matrix rooms, Roblox, whatever.

Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#34

Why are her parents not being mentioned for letting their 11 year daughter on the internet unsupervised? Especially on Webcam. Three parties should be involved here and the parents are one.

Well parents should be responsible for looking after their children, but laws exist partly to protect the vulnerable. Not everyone has parents who are up to the job for one reason or other - that doesn't mean the law doesn't have a role in protecting them. In fact I would argue that the law has a greater role in that case. Lots of products have mandatory child-safe protections built in (eg bottles of bleech are required to have a child-safe cap) so we as a society have decided that some protections over and above defering to parents can be appropriate for products that can cause harm.

I don't know Omegle so don't know what the balance should be here, but lots of tech products are built with a "move fast, figure out the complicated bits later", which is right but which doesn't fit well with these sorts of nuances.

Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#35
post #22

Never realised that Omegle had become a platform for the creeps. She sued for $22 million. I don't see anything heroic in that, despite her tragic circumstances. But I really wonder what the authorities where doing - if paedophiles were using the platform, sounds like it would have been easy to identify and trap them.

> But I really wonder what the authorities where doing - if paedophiles were using the platform, sounds like it would have been easy to identify and trap them You didn't need an account to use Omegle and when it matched you up with someone the chat/video was peer-to-peer directly between your computer and theirs. Not really much to go on if you are trying to identify the person on the other end.

Except you have their IP so if theycommited a crim you could directly identify them via the ISP and then you also have a video of them so you can prove itsthem using the device... so actually sounds like it gibes you everything you need

Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#36
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She was not a parent - she was a child victim of the site since she was 11 years old. Thats an important distinction to overlook in the rush to judgement.

I had plenty of similarly unsavory experiences as a preteen with unfettered internet access, but never in my adulthood did I think I should go back and seek vengeance on the platforms. I chalked it up to my own youthful stupidly and moved on. This woman is a ghoul.

She should be you is what you're saying?

Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#37
post #3

Interesting, product liability suits will cause app operators to actually respond differently, instead of ignoring the suit hoping it goes away under section 230. I think this more likely gets Congress to expand section 230 to improve the shield, before working on the exceptions again

I admire your optimism. The only times section 230 has been brought up on the hill in the last decade as been in, admittedly performative and doomed to fail, calls to get rid of it entirely.

Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#39

Never realised that Omegle had become a platform for the creeps. She sued for $22 million. I don't see anything heroic in that, despite her tragic circumstances. But I really wonder what the authorities where doing - if paedophiles were using the platform, sounds like it would have been easy to identify and trap them.

"She" was working with (I am tempted to say "fell into the hands of") an advocacy organization which handled the lawsuit. The purpose of the suit wasn't ever to collect compensation for anything. It was to harass Omegle, and to intimidate Omegle and others. Demanding a lot of money damages was part of that. Driving Omegle out of business was a grade-A success even if she got zero money.

Re: Omegle: "How I got the dangerous chat site closed down"

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had plenty of similarly unsavory experiences as a preteen with unfettered internet access, but never in my adulthood did I think I should go back and seek vengeance on the platforms. I chalked it up to my own youthful stupidly and moved on. This woman is a ghoul.

She should be you is what you're saying?

Well, she should probably have avoided letting insane political campaigners "counsel" her about how to feel about it or serve as her "support network". They are systematic exploiters who are in the business of turning non-traumatic experiences traumatic, turning traumatic experiences ultra-traumatic, and using people as political and media pawns. If you've already been manipulated, they're ready and willing to manipulate you some more.
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