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OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by xvector »

upwardbound wrote: post #22
olalonde wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also noticed an unusually high amount of throwaway accounts on OpenAI threads lately. I am not sure whether it's a concerted effort but Altman does seem to have a lot of fans.

Some people on Twitter, notably @HackingButLegal, have been collecting examples of possible paid astroturfing accounts which she believes belong to a reputation management firm hired by Sam to suppress his sister Annie's accusations that Sam sexually abused her as a child. https://twitter.com/HackingButLegal/status/17268410084771104... https://twitter.com/HackingButLegal/status/17268395129057322...

Have you actually read the sister's accusations? They read like the rantings of a paranoid schizophrenic. One or two things, I could believe, but the sheer volume of ridiculously extreme accusations is impossible to believe.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by kareaa »

olalonde wrote: post #5
throw_pm23 wrote: post #3

Almost every story we get seems to point in the direction of the board being erratic and incompetent. I feel like either that has to be the obvious truth, or I am being gaslighted by a concerted effort from the other side.

I also noticed an unusually high amount of throwaway accounts on OpenAI threads lately. I am not sure whether it's a concerted effort but Altman does seem to have a lot of fans.

I feel called out - I have created a HN account recently in order to comment on this matter.

I consider the recent events as crucial to the future of whole industry. I follow them extensively and I am greatly interested in participating in a conversation with informed people. What better venues are there? Twitter? Reddit? Those two platforms are sadly full of uninformed trolls.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by siva7 »

olalonde wrote: post #24
siva7 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than putting up a conspiracy theory the much more plausible explanation is that this board evidently pissed off a lot of customers, powerful people in tech and almost all employees of openai.

If we are to believe media reports. But why do customers and employees care that much about having Sam Altman as CEO? Sam was just at the right place at the right time. He is no doubt competent but not some kind of irreplaceable AI or management prodigy. OpenAI's true strength lies in its AI research team and their groundbreaking models. The C-suite is just a sideshow.

I'm sure this question can be answered better by the employees themselves and they voted very clearly that they don't want a leadership unter the current board that ousted Sam and Greg. As for why customers care about who the CEO is, i'm not even sure if you're seriously asking these questions.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by drexlspivey »

robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else.

Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? You’re not doing anyone any good speculating stuff like this just adding more noise.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by tucnak »

robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

D’Angelo is certainly naive in his self-interest, and definitely not capable as to orchestrate this thing. Think of him like he's useful bastard, and now it's his turn to become the scape-goat bastard for everybody to hate. This is counter-spin for containment purposes. The real questions we should be asking is how come the NATSEC patriot-ladies on the board managed to exploit Sutskever in such blatant way, what that entailed, and what kind of psychosis it took to get there.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by robg »

upwardbound wrote: post #18
robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

This theory is endorsed by OpenAI's Head of Applied Research, Dr. Boris Power, who retweeted a Robert Scoble tweet saying this. See his twitter timeline here https://twitter.com/borismpower?lang=en

Being spun as deeply ideological seems about right - the 3 non-profit oriented board members seem like they were already open about their views in that direction, so just took one vote to flip - D’Angelo.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by RobertDeNiro »

drexlspivey wrote: post #34
robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else. Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company lo…

Not saying I agree with the theory, but if D’Angelo was any but manipulative he would obviously lie and convince them using other reasons. For instance he could claim that he’s worried about alignment, safety, etc.
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