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95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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Re: 95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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Just your daily reminder that there is no value without labor. The board has come off looking awful here regardless of the merits of their actions. That alone is reason why they should be replaced.

The AI industry seems to exist in order to make it possible for there to be value without labor.

Re: 95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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Now do it anonymously without peer pressure.

OpenAI employee: “Yes, lots of peer pressure. Didn’t have a choice. They were calling people in the middle of the night.”

https://twitter.com/seriouslyrick/status/1726767686418338257

Re: 95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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post #4

Just your daily reminder that there is no value without labor. The board has come off looking awful here regardless of the merits of their actions. That alone is reason why they should be replaced.

Just your daily reminder that there is no value without labor. Not quite, but so verging on false. Tons of labor with zero knowledge, design, coordination, and skill can yield near zero or zero value. Likewise, there are cases where comparatively less labor can yield outsized value. The problem isn't labor going out the door. The problem is the knowledge and other factors which go out the door with it. (Something whi…

> Not quite, but so verging on false. Tons of labor with zero knowledge, design, coordination, and skill can yield near zero or zero value. Likewise, there are cases where comparatively less labor can yield outsized value.

I don't understand the quip, there's literally no value without labour. Some labour might have outsized value given inputs and costs, some might yield zero or negative value but all value depends on labour.

Re: 95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None. A CEO with >95% approval rating is unheard of, even considering sole-proprietorships

It’s fairly unusual that a CEO getting fired would put a company’s ability to continue to operate at such high risk. I’d take it less as a signal of approval in the ordinary sense (though some of it’s probably that!) and more one of perceived dependence. Altman = Microsoft = big piles of cash.

I'm not sure the problem is that he got fired, so much as how he got fired.

Re: 95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None. A CEO with >95% approval rating is unheard of, even considering sole-proprietorships

This isn't indicative of a >95% approval rating for Altman, though—once the first 50% of employees sign the letter, the rest might sign due to peer pressure (even if not explicit), or because their favorite coworkers have already signed, or because the new CEO doesn't have a good reputation among workers, or lots of other reasons besides "when last asked if I approved of the CEO in the abstract I said yes".

By the dozens of employee accounts I’ve read in the last 72 hours they all spoke with affection, and I could not find any detractors. A repeated theme was that he always took the time to listen and he cared and went out of his way. I’ve never worked with a CEO I would describe that way. I don’t know how widespread that is among their employees, or whether they’re mostly pissed at the board for destroying their financial futures, but I’d say this situation and their level of devotion is mind boggling, almost cult like.

Re: 95% of OpenAI Employees (738/770) Threaten to Follow Sam Altman Out the Door

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post #3

Makes you wonder how many other companies would have this level of consensus supporting their CEO

None. A CEO with >95% approval rating is unheard of, even considering sole-proprietorships

This isn’t an approval rating, though. For one it’s public. I’m sure there’s a lot of pressure, spoken or unspoken, to sign.
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