From the start I assumed that Sam was the (street) smarter guy here, and that only confirms it
Meanwhile Google remains oblivious
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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#32Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.
And for the OpenAI employees, they can just switch the badge in a blink second, it almost feel like a no-brainer to many.
I think Sam just took the easier route to rebuild OpenAI within MSFT.
Now the trouble comes to the SV VCs they now will be furious.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#33Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.
By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.
Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#34Wonder how long this will last. This team doesn't seem like a good fit for big corp Microsoft. Good get by MS though!
What value does Sam bring now? They have all the money they could want. All the connections they’d need. Weird situation for him.
Agreed. Sam isn’t some AI visionary, he’s a startup guy. Unless he’s leading a team that’s going to spin out a new company, I don’t get it.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#35It’s really safe to say the big loser is OpenAI. Microsoft is effectively getting the team under their own overnight
"OpenAI, the next huge tech company to rival Google" is a huge loser of this whole process, probably dead.
"OpenAI, the non-profit who only has a for-profit subsidiary to get enough resources to fund its mission to develop AGI" is probably a winner, and gets to live instead of slowly die.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#36Others from OpenAI team, maybe can lead the AI research, but how does Sam can lead a research group?
IMO, to lead a research group you need some decent research skills, Sam is good at business
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#37Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.
Nope. They're following the path to power, money, and maybe continued fame. That's all.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#38Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.
Maybe Sam thinks OpenAI will be so important he has a shot at CEO of Microsoft in a couple years?
But Satya is making a few 100 mil a year, tops. Sam could easily make himself a billionaire with one raise. And who wants to control all of Microsoft, that's a whole lot of headaches
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#39I think people underestimate how much of a company’s value is in their key leadership, select talent, and technology. When a company is acquired those are typically the reasons to do so other than pure revenue acquisition. Microsoft already has their technology, now has the key leadership, and will soon have the select talent.
Satya wins, OpenAI is walking dead.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#40Why jockey for a board seat when you can harbor the org