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Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by thibaut_barrere »

aetherson wrote: post #13

Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.

You are so close from the truth :-)

I wrote demos some while back (~ 1990 -> 1998 roughly).

They were running on the hardware of that time (including specific soundcards like the Gravis UltraSound), using modified DOS modes etc.

As years passed, it became difficult to run them, because the hardware was harder to find.

Ultimately I wasn't able to watch my own creations anymore!

At some point though, I discovered DOSBox (the emulator). But running it on the available hardware in say 2005 would not give anything good!

So I had to wait more years until technology improved (good enough to ensure the emulation would run fast & without too many glitches, but also fast enough so that video can be captured decently), until 2019 roughly, when some friend from back then captured my own work on their brand new PC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwesW3PSwg).

So yes, it feels like archeology to me!

Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by datameta »

vikingerik wrote: post #28
aetherson wrote: post #13

Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.

How did those two words get mushed together for this, anyway? Nobody talks about the hackingscene, or javascene, or gamescene, or magicscene (the trading card game), or baseballscene, or anything else like that.

Maybe because demo ends with a vowel and it would be hard to come up with a smooth transition to a second word?

Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by thibaut_barrere »

vikingerik wrote: post #28
aetherson wrote: post #13

Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.

How did those two words get mushed together for this, anyway? Nobody talks about the hackingscene, or javascene, or gamescene, or magicscene (the trading card game), or baseballscene, or anything else like that.

I don't have a definite answer. It might be a mixture of analogies to other creative "scenes" (music / cinema), it might have been improved by the fact most competitions were later projected on large screens etc!

Re: Demoscene (2004)

#34

Post by ben0x539 »

vikingerik wrote: post #28
aetherson wrote: post #13

Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.

How did those two words get mushed together for this, anyway? Nobody talks about the hackingscene, or javascene, or gamescene, or magicscene (the trading card game), or baseballscene, or anything else like that.

Might be my bias showing, but I just assumed that demo scene stuff mainly developed in Europe, and at least in German, referring to a hackingscene[1], or javascene[2], or gamescene[3], or magicscene[4] wouldn't feel out of place at all either.

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22hackerszene%22 [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22java-szene%22 [3] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22game-szene%22 but https://www.google.com/search?q=%22gaming-szene%22 probably hits better [4] ok this one is a bit of a miss but still https://www.google.com/search?q=%22magic-szene%22

Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by Jare »

There's not much to discuss about this submission, but here's a twitch link to the talk from Andreas Fredriksson today at Handmade Seattle. It's about some of the approaches they took to make their absolutely incredible Eon demo for original Amiga 500 hardware.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1978214964?t=01h31m12s

"Who cares about features if it runs like ass" made my day.

Re: Demoscene (2004)

#36

Post by pixelpoet »

unixhero wrote: post #11
pixelpoet wrote: post #9

Any HN ppl wanna meet up at Revision 2024? :)

Yeah that would be cool. I think we may be going

Feel free to email me thomas.ludwig@gmail.com, I'd like to make a first demo entry and have some other fractal art friends with ideally :)

In general we could org a little HN mini submeet.

Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by GuB-42 »

vikingerik wrote: post #28
aetherson wrote: post #13

Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.

How did those two words get mushed together for this, anyway? Nobody talks about the hackingscene, or javascene, or gamescene, or magicscene (the trading card game), or baseballscene, or anything else like that.

It came from the warez or cracking scene, often just called "the scene" [1]. I don't know where the name came from, but the demoscene is definitely a (legal) spinoff of the (illegal) warez scene.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene

> Demos in the demoscene sense began as software crackers' "signatures", that is, crack screens and crack intros attached to software whose copy protection was removed.

You may notice that many demoscene groups have the same name as warez groups, this is not a coincidence as they were originally the same people. All part of "the scene".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene

Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by sedatk »

thibaut_barrere wrote: post #31
aetherson wrote: post #13

Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.

You are so close from the truth :-) I wrote demos some while back (~ 1990 -> 1998 roughly). They were running on the hardware of that time (including specific soundcards like the Gravis UltraSound), using modified DOS modes etc. As years passed, it became difficult to run them, because the hardware was harder to find. Ultimately I wasn't able to watch my own creations anymore! At some point though, I discovered DOSBo…

Great work! Good use of Mode-X blending effects to achieve "true color" :). I missed this one when it got out, but I'd have loved it.

Re: Demoscene (2004)

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Post by thibaut_barrere »

sedatk wrote: post #38
thibaut_barrere wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are so close from the truth :-) I wrote demos some while back (~ 1990 -> 1998 roughly). They were running on the hardware of that time (including specific soundcards like the Gravis UltraSound), using modified DOS modes etc. As years passed, it became difficult to run them, because the hardware was harder to find. Ultimately I wasn't able to watch my own creations anymore! At some point though, I discovered DOSBo…

Great work! Good use of Mode-X blending effects to achieve "true color" :). I missed this one when it got out, but I'd have loved it.

Thank you :-) Yes, well it looked much better on CRT screens, which provide a good blending!
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